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| InfoSeeker Rating: N/A |
Here is a picture of a 85 MCI named "Michael" http://www.busforsale.com/michael/index.htm from www.busforsale.com We can use it as an example for our discussion unless you want to post other sites or pictures. It shows it having a walk on roof. Can anyone comment on how the roof would be the same or different than a standard MCI? How is the conversion done so people can walk on the roof? How much weight or people do you think it can handle, cost to convert...anything you think would be helpful in this topic would be helpful. Good idea, bad idea...? Thankyou. | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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Mr. Infoseeker-- Do you not understand that your are cross-posting an advertizement from another site on a site that hosts "Bus for Sale" advertizements? that is like sitting down at the counter of your local diner with a value meal from McD's and asking for refills. Gary | ||
| InfoSeeker Rating: N/A |
Gary, My thinking is a forum is used to share information. How do I discuss an idea without using some pictures as an example? And since this example is on that site, I used it as a link. And linking to other sites is the fastest way to share these ideas. I'm not trying to hurt anyone, just asking some questions and using links to share. Sorry if you are offended. | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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I am not offended, you are violating the rules and common accepted practice of the board. This (Very Valuable) forum is provided to YOU free of charge. You should be old enough to know that nothing is free. The funding of this board is provided by the commercial section of this board, you have already been told this in the "Skylight" thread. Please don't post commercial advertizements in the discussion forum for crying out loud. This is not a difficult concept. Gary | ||
| InfoSeeker Rating: N/A |
Gary I just looked through the "getting started" page and didn't see anything about posting links for discussion. http://www.busnut.com/cgi-bin/bbs/discus.cgi I am not advertising anything for sale. Just using the links where the conversions are as a starting point for reference. How else does one share information? Links are what the internet and forums are about. Sharing ideas and info. | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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Read the last line under the "The Board". | ||
| John that newguy Rating: N/A |
Infoseeker- Although the concept is nice, do you really want your entire entourage stomping on your ceiling? You'll have more to worry about with leaks, since the railings have to be secured through the roof and into some type of reinforced structure. Everytime you penetrate the roof with as much as a screw, you are creating and area for a potential leak. Add the flexing of the roof at those points of penetration by heavy feet, and you'll be sending an rsvp to water. But wait, there's more... What about the added worry of catching a branch or wire on any part of that railing? One yank on any part and the entire length of it will suffer movement (that's aside from the movement of normal travel). The entire railing's mounts would have to be checked for damage and repaired before travel should be permitted to resume. If I might.... can I ask a question? (aww go ahead) Do you already own a bus, or are you looking to buy one? Or, are you looking to buy a conversion? And although it's not up to us in the peanut gallery to dictate or enforce I@n's rules, it really should be noted..... that most of the links you'll find here, do not reflect directly to a bus for sale at some other web site. You'll find that on occasion, a link to some material might also be to a site with buses for sale... | ||
| James Maxwell (Jmaxwell)
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Infoseeker: I whole-heartedly agree w/ Gary on this. I'm not offended either, but I think you are hedging the rules at best, and certainly violating the spirit of the rules. Why don't you let busforsale tout their own wares instead of your on-going attempts to advertise for them. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to put a deck over the roof. One of the Stick & Staple outfits makes a 36' viewing deck motorhome. R&M fiberglass had a clients so equipped bus at BusnUSA 04 and Sean's Neoplan has a patio on the roof. | ||
| John Rigbyj
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Come on Gary, When Tami J,C and I have been out to dinner we often take in a McDonalds for J,C, and Tami and I order off the menue. Infoseeker, good question good picture. I have seen many bus decks,they have normally renforced and added an extra platform to walk on. | ||
| Gelecamion (Gelecamion)
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info seeker do you asked for permition from the boos nut major or just hopping he lets it slide I am new to this site probABLY 7 OR 8 MONTHS AND I CK EVERY MOVE I MEKE BEFORE I MAKE IT WITH THE BOSS OR JEFE.... If you are just doing this for info post only the picture with out additional info I do not want to prosecute you but be more tactful please ... also thanks to this message forum i got mine bus running and i met good people along the way and i want to keep it that way If you are a true bus nut you give me a ring when you are in Arizona !!!! Thank you for reading this and giving the time and importance that it deserves !!!! gele | ||
| Richard Bowyer (Drivingmisslazy)
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I suspect that if I@N was not travelling, he would already have pulled the post. I suspect also that maybe it was posted at this time knowing that I@N was out of town and I further suspect that it is again blatant advertising against the rules and principles of the board. Richard And I am not afraid to let anyone know who I am!! | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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Ian's just arrived at Bussin, it sound's like he's got limited access. Incidently walk-on roofs are a hallmark of the Wanderlodge. Gary | ||
| Bill Butler (Circofix)
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My, some of you guys are thin skinned!! | ||
| Richard Bowyer (Drivingmisslazy)
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Yep, and we do not like to see free-loaders try and take advantage of our free board. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever for anyone to post a link(s) like that. The post of a picture would be great to try and explain what he was talking about, but to post two different links to a competitors board? I do not think that was necessary. And we do not want to lose this board because of the actions of a few. Richard | ||
| InfoSeeker Rating: N/A |
Back to the topic of walk on roofs. 1. Are the internal stuctural roof posts and joists reinforced to support the addtional weight of the people on the roof? 2. is it a thicker roof skin with stock roof posts and joists? 3. is the walk on roof seperated by an air space and lies above the stock roof by posts and beams or does it lie on top of the stock roof? 4. what makes it capable of supporting the additional weight of people as compared to a stock bus? Thanks all. | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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Actually not so thin skinned. this is the second time around for mr Infoseeker. the first time can be chalked up as an honest mistake, but after you've been told in very firm terms, the second time is not a mistep, but rather overtly disregarding the guidelines for this forum. Gary | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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Wanderlodges have a layer of diamond-plate to spread the weight of someone walking on the roof. Mine does not have this (Yet) so my ceiling panels flex quite a bit if I step between the ribs. I step on the ribs. I can only comment on the structure of a Bluebird, which are 100% Steel, and have the strongest roof structure of all the makers. I would think that you could do the same with another brand of bus though. Gary | ||
| James Maxwell (Jmaxwell)
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The Stick and staple that is available as a viewing unit utilizes all aluminum. Framework is attached outboard at the wall/roof junction. Diamond plate alum. deck. side rails, seating, everything is attached to the deck and all folds down for travel. Don't remember exact spec., but it was either 6 or 8" when stowed for travel. Would be a fairly straighforward operation to hinge and lock-pin side safety rails, bench seating, whatever, to the deck. | ||
| BrianMCI Rating: N/A |
Mr SaleSeeker is more like it... Does anyone actually say things like this? "...We can use it as an example for our discussion unless you want to post other sites or pictures. It shows it having a walk on roof..." I might be inclined to give the benefit of the doubt for the first link, although it is suspect, it is the second link that is over the top blatant. And if this is truly Mr. Infomercial's second infraction, it would bother me not at all if Ian gave a heave ho to Mr. InfoSucker. Brian | ||
| John that newguy Rating: N/A |
Of course! Just the other day I said nearly those exact words to a bystander while posting Stop & Shop's sales fliers on WalMart's Food Store lobby bulletin board. It's quite common, actually. Seriously, I guess we'll just have to see what the umpire calls it. I suppose I could naively say it was a simple doing with no ulterior motive. Display a picture and give copyright credit to whatever the source was.. Normally, not a very big issue.. I hate having to unsnarl my underwear, don't you? | ||
| Brian (Bigbusguy)
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I think it a good post for some one building a roof rack . I have a poor looking pic of one being built at the bigbusguy bus conversion yard (my back yard)on a mc5.  Brian 4905 Klamath Falls Oregon | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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Mr. Infomercial, Hah! I love it. Gary |