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| TWODOGS (Twodogs)
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just had a fellow give me a golf cart...been out there takeing the top off so it will fit in my bay...started sprinkeling...so in here for some questions...first,do they all run on the same voltage...if so what is the voltage...next question..my thoughts are to use it as a golf cart while parked & while underway in the bus...have it supply 12 volt for my 'house' batteries...can I make or buy a switch that would go from say 24 volt for cart & then throw the switch & have a different set of cables supply 12 volt for 'house' batteries..& also so I could charge it with a 12 volt charger ? | ||
| Sean Welsh (Sean)
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2D, Not all carts run on the same voltage. However, *most* older carts are 36 volts. With regard to switching from 36-volt (or whatever) bank to 12-volt bank and back again, see this thread: http://www.busnut.com/bbs/messages/11/9319.html which covered the topic pretty well. FWIW, I had a 36-volt cart in my bay when I got the bus (since have sold the cart). In order to load the cart into and out of the bay, the foward/reverse lever had been replaced with a set of four solenoids, and then they had made a "remote control" box on a cable that could operate the lowest setting of the go pedal, as well as forward/reverse controls. Worked pretty well. -Sean | ||
| TWODOGS (Twodogs)
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just went out & looked..it is 36 volt..(EZ-GO).could I use (3) 12volt batteries ...and....just have the cables long enough to swith them over to 'paralel'...& back to 'series'... that way....12 volt paralel for 'house' (& chargeing batteries) then swith the cables & run the cart on 36 ??...the reason the guy gave it to me ...he doesn't have a 36 volt charger | ||
| TWODOGS (Twodogs)
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switch | ||
| truthhunter@shaw.ca
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Dog+Dog if you keep answering your own questions in public you while render all others redundent. That would be my choice make a switch board that would reconfigure the batteries in 36 v series or in the other position- 12 volt paraell configureation. Have it both ways too make it your way? | ||
| TWODOGS (Twodogs)
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guess I don't make myself clear sometimes ...high dollar on this is not an option....59.00 for a switch...means I would have to eat beans for a month...things are different when you are on S/S...just wondering if switching the cables around to charge them ....& run 'house' batteries...is the way to go...so far as I'm concerened ...this is a "think board"....not an insult board...I try to help people that I can ...AND....I am ...not good with electricity.... I will probably never have a bus with ddec.... | ||
| truthhunter@shaw.ca
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Yep use then move the cables around till that bag of cash shows up, just that the battery clamps will not last for two many reconect cycles before they crack and double check the conections before you complete the circuit. Hell do feel lonely I haven't been able to turn a profit in a few years myselfand makin due has always been the rule of invention. | ||
| TomNPat
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Two Dogs, I asked pretty much the same question in the thread that Sean refers to. What I want is the knife transfer switches to change the batteries to 12 volt to get a source for our inverter while boondocking. But haven't found the right switches yet. If I do, I'll let you know. Have a 36 volt charger, a 24 volt for the bus, and two 12 volt chargers. So charging isn't a problem. Output is. By the way, I'm sure that you know that redundant is spelled with an 'a' in the third to the last letter, not an 'e'. Though I haven't mastered your ability to use few words, I do admire your ability to get a message across. That is our 'configureation'. TomNPat | ||
| FAST FRED Rating: N/A |
Pulling the golf cart batt terminals connections and installing a parallel wire set to use the 12V costs only some wire, and a bit of time. IF you have no high draw inverter , the wiring need not be starter cable sized, and could use spring clips like on a jumper cable or smaller. FAST FRED | ||
| TWODOGS (Twodogs)
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tompat...ever wonder who spelled that word | ||
| truthhunter@shaw.ca
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A cheap source of transfer switch components for the circuit try adapting old blade style/cartrage fuse boxes from house applicance services (compact) or 60 amp services house main service (a little bulky). You could use the the box and off the shelf cable clamp grometes from the electrical supply, or just strip the guts and adapt to something more compact. If you find a used building supply store (like habitat for humanity)or a used crap newspaper with a wanted ad you should have no problem some for cheap as are always being upgrade to breakers. | ||
| CoryDaneRTS Rating: N/A |
Hey 2dogs At one of the plants I used to work had the dc knife sw blades you need in both just a solid blade and fused blade and I am concerned because they are quite sizable. I don't know if you want that large of a "Energized" piece of metal on your cart. Especially if it is the type of cart I have seen running around the campgrounds. I figure you would need a minimum of 2 DPDT blades with a DC plug to pull from the cart and plug into the bus. You would always have to remember to pull that plug before throwing the switches over. The switches would be wired Pos on the left side and Neg on the right side. The bottom clips would be wired to jumper the pos and neg together, on both switches individually. not across to the other switch. Battery 3 neg would wire to a common neg stud. Battery 3 pos would wire to the pos blade on sw2 Battery 2 neg would wire to the neg blade on sw2 Battery 2 pos would wire to the pos blade on sw1 Battery 1 neg would wire to the neg blade on sw1 Battery 1 pos would wire to a common pos stud. the top neg clips on sw1 & 2 wire to the neg common stud. The top POS clips on sw1 & 2 wire to the pos common stud. the cart needs a plug added (or another dpdt switch) to disconnect from the cart and connect to the bus batt. This is going to take a bit of space when you consider the size of the equipment you need to carry the amps for charge and load. I think the bulk would be the biggest problem for this idea. give me a yell and I will try to help explain my above comments further if you need. Good luck cd | ||
| Stephen Fessenden (Sffess)
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You should have no problem with cable ends if you use lugs for bolt and wingnut connection, and not battery terminal connectors. Like a marine battery. The danger of setting up for manual change of cable position instead of switches is that one day your brain may not be in gear and you may short or otherwise misconnect. Maybe you would be happy with the speed at 12 volts. Well at least grudgingly tolerant of the speed. They used to sell an electric car that simply switched the battery configutation from parallel to series/parallel to series to run different speeds. It had three power levels only, no in between, just 12volts, or 24 volts or 36 volts for highest speed. I bet yours will run on 12 volts with the pedal to the floor. Then you have no connections to change. I am certain it will run on 24 volts at a slower speed if you want to have a 24 volt house system and a 24 volt inverter. At least with 24 volts you only have a single stage switch system to change it to 12 volts for house power. | ||
| Stephen Fessenden (Sffess)
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If you can run on 24 volts, you can switch with a DPDT knife switch. I would keep the switch easily accessable so you can toataly disconnect if there are any problems just by raising the blades to the center off position. I see that you have an Eagle so you need only 12 volt for house and bus batteries. I can figure out a simple way to wire it safely, but I am too tired to descrige it well now. Not and expensive switch. | ||
| Shel rands5302 Rating: N/A |
Wow Twodogs you must have retired really really young.  Lola | ||
| TWODOGS (Twodogs)
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hmmmmm....maybe it will run on an 8D....hmmmmm LOLA...yep...ambulation had something to do with it.. | ||
| CoryDaneRTS Rating: N/A |
I was thinking about this project last night and it came to me that, though expensive, it might be accomplished with Continuous Duty Solenoids from marine applications. The size of the Solenoids are about 2 1/2 x 1 1/2" and carry several hundred amps (from memoroy, I didn't look at them yet). WOuld need 6 of them and a dpdt switch to switch the two solenoids(in the 36v side) CLOSED and would OPEN (in the 12v side) the 4 solenoids. 2 of the solenoids, 1 each, would take the place of the jumper between the pos/neg terminals that the knife blade would have switched. Otherwise the above discription for the pos/neg side switches would be translated to solenloids. Flipping the switch would change voltage to the cart from 36 to 12 as well as power to the plug. Probably want a key switch to prevent accidental voltage overage on the motorhome bat. Would be wired similarly to my previous thought. This would elminate a lot of space that would have otherwise been taken by the dc knife switches. If you want to interlock so you can't put 36 on the bus bat, add another solenoid to the positive going to the plug for the bus and it can operate with the key switch for 12v dc supply. Down side: As with all automation, there may be a time the solenoid might stick closed, this would be bad if switching from 36 to 12 or vice versa. I think a fuse link on the pos side of bat 2 and 3 would protect from this amality. For true safety, probably should fuse all the pos sides of the batteries. This would probably be the only way, that I can see, that would work and be safe enough to use and not take up the entire back side of the go/cart. In Fact, 2Dogs could give a ride to those "Ladies" he finds on the corners (waiting for the bus?), since he would have enough room for at least one extra passenger...... good luck cd | ||
| TWODOGS (Twodogs)
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.... .....high dollar is not an option.... I have two 8D's back at the ranch that wouldn't start the bus..thinking about new electrolite,wonder how much (4 gal. ? ) & how much $$$ ,electrolite is...I don't think it's too cheap... pickin' up a workin' girl in a golf cart... | ||
| Craig Craddock (Gs4)
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Dos Dogs You did not memtion if your EZ GO has the early style speed controller that uses 3 coils to operate the slower speeds. This style uses the same amount of energy no matter what speed you are going. They charged this type after every 18 holes. 12 volts will work with this style but I do not think you will be happy with the speed. The later styles have a electronic controller that will only work with 24 or 36 volts [maybe between 24 and 36 volts. This style would last all day between charges as it is a pulse system and also only uses the engergy needed for your desired speed. I have used 3 batteries like a 8D and they worked for us playing around all day in the yard one in each side under the seat and one in the golf bag holder floor. I have found that the 6 golf cart batteries will run much longer. We have several of these with pickup beds for maintenance. In another application a large toy train I have used the electronic controller with 4 golf cart batteries 24 volts total and I charge it with 5 small plug ins. One charges all 4 batteries 24 volts. and the other 4 I can charge each battery individually to equalize them when needed. In this operation I draw 6 v, 12 v, 18v, & 24 v and not all at an even amount. I fused the wire between the plug and the batteries on all.This has worked well in this application for 13 years now. I used small radio shack plugs probably not large enough for you. On another toy I used a 110 v extension plug for it's charging but I am only charging 10 amps at 24 volts. Maybe you can find some old golf cart male-female charger plug in's for higher amp charging. Keep the contacts clean to control heat build up. I wash the tops of the batteries weekly. Almost totally stops corrion build up. The copper contacts in the early speed controller and the direction shifter in all needs filing, milling of some replacement of some bolts about once yearly this is with daily use. Other then that they are pretty much bullet proof. Your old batteries may get you by depening how far you travel between charges. I see a shorter travel distance after about 3 years we usually get between 6 and 8 years out of a set of batteries like Trogan T105 or Exide E3600. By then they do not travel very far between charges. Hopes this helps. | ||
| Sean Welsh (Sean)
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2D, Generally, one can't simply add electrolyte to batteries that have already been activated. It will upset the chemical balance, and you'll never really know what the right chemical composition to add would be. Top the batteries up with distilled water. If they've been sitting around, they are probably sulfated. The best way to deal with this is to equalize them (charge for about two hours at 16 volts), then drain them most of the way using, for example, a headlight or other moderate-current load, then equalize them again. That should restore at least some of the usable capacity. If it doesn't, electrolyte isn't going to help. -Sean | ||
| TWODOGS (Twodogs)
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my 'new' ez-go...has the coils....has the motor bolted directy to the third member...also...for some reason ... Los Indios has salt in the air & there is frame damage...might just use the running gear & some new tubeing for frames...or....might die before anything gets done....when ya' get old...who knows what tomorrow will bring | ||
| TWODOGS (Twodogs)
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a lambraginie go cart body...hmmmmm | ||
| gillig-dan Rating: N/A |
A friend of mine made a wild looking three wheeler chopper from an old Harley Davidson gas powered golf cart and a Suzuki front fork and wheel. Very low profile, would fit right in a bay. | ||
| TWODOGS (Twodogs)
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the wheels on this cart are 4 bolt...already thinking...4-bolt car wheels & tires ??? | ||
| CoryDaneRTS Rating: N/A |
There you go 2DOgs Put a lift kit on, slickers racing tires on the rear, 5 way seat belt system, racing stripes, way to go.... cd | ||
| TomNPat
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Two dogs- We bought smaller wheels for ours on ebay. They are lawn equipment wheels and I can get you the size if you want. We also shortened the length by about 6". Ours is a Melex which is a Polish EZ-go (No Joke, it is a knock off), but the frame, etc. are all the same. We remove the seat backs and lay down the steering by removing the bolts to the floor. We welded the nuts underneath to make it easier to work on. 2 2x8 planks with iron on the end and in it rolls. We use a floor jack to raise it and compress the seat against the lowered center tube in the bay. Ours is an MC 9 but your eagle may have taller bays. Now if I can figure a way to use my winch to load it and a way to connect our inverter to it, it'll be a member of the famly! TomNPat | ||
| TWODOGS (Twodogs)
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a polish golf cart...fred flintstone picture come up is that anything like a mexican winebago...(garbage truck) | ||
| gillig-dan Rating: N/A |
Gotta love TD's attention to being politically correct on the world-wide web. | ||
| ChuckMC9 (Chucks)
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Motorcycle RV  | ||
| Shel rands5302 Rating: N/A |
WOW!!! |