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Brian (Bigbusguy)

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Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 6:28 pm:   

Im getting ready to work on my bed room .
Should I use a box spring? I would like not to and use the space it would take up for storage.
What is the standerd size smaller then a queen size. I thinking on going one size under a queen size.
Any one have any plans on a bed pedistel?
Im also wanting it to hinge up with the hinge on the rear bulkhead end. Looking for any ideas on what you all have done and works.

Thanks

Brian 4905 Some place out west.
Jack Conrad (Jackconrad)

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Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 6:36 pm:   

Brian,
The next size smaller is a double bed. A standard queen is 60" wide. Not sure what the width is on a double. We used a queen size air mattress without a box spring. It sleeps great. Only thing to watch with an air mattress is to let out some of the air before going to a higher elevation. Our pedestal is about 20" high and 6" less size than the bed. This allows toe space when making the bed. Hope this helps, Jack
Nick Morris (Nick3751)

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Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 6:51 pm:   

I'm shootin for a hinged bed frame as well so everyone share. I'm using a Select comfort bed in mine so that should stop the altitude problem.
Jay Smith

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Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 8:45 pm:   

A standard queen bed is 80x60. The next size down is a 'short' queen size which measures 75x60.
CW carries Select Comfort 4000 in the short queen size made specifically for RVs.

Jay
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WEC4104

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Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 9:41 pm:   

I currently have a queen installed with the hinge at the rear bulkhead (headboard) as described. By feeling is you do not need the box spring, if you get yourself a decent matress.

We use the underside for storage. (extra blankets/pillows and sleeping bags for the kids.) The one thing I'd like to change would be to put gas springs on it to aid in lifting it open. Think about the weight when you flip a mattress, they aren't light. I'd really love to put a set of linear actuators on it that would raise it electrically, but I know my kids would dump me on my head while I was sleeping. :}
marc schlabach

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Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 10:39 pm:   

I have 5 drawers under the bed which is queen size, plus a hinge on the 3/4 plywood. The drawers give us a lot of needed space. We do not have box springs, but a real good mattres. Box springs add too much height for me. Just my opinion. Thanks Marc
John that newguy

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Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 10:51 pm:   

Mattress size:
http://www.mattress.com/service/sizes.php

Mattress', sheets and spreads for a full size are less expensive
than for a queen size.

I don't think any RVs use a box spring. The space under the
bed usually houses a fresh water tank, or is used for storage.

As mentioned, a couple of van rear door/hatch gas filled lifters
are a must-have.

But you'd be better off with the queen size, if your going to
have a few companions at once, like TD...
captain ron (Captain_ron)

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Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 11:29 pm:   

Brian, I made mine to flip up from the side. I think it is easier to lift the narrowest direction than the length way. plus on your 4905 you need to get to the access panel for your motor. also think about hight issues raising from the end. also is access to things farther back if you lift from the end. It's all personal preferance though. use the gas struts either way.
gusc

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Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 12:32 am:   

I agree with Marc and Capt Ron. Forget box springs, heavy and worthless.

Build up the mattress platform and get extra space. Use 3/4" plywood for a solid mattress support and platform top. May require a couple of 2x4" ribs for stiffness, depends on your weight!

I make my mattresses from foam. A five inch very firm foundation and a 2-3 inch medium firm piecefor the top. Place the whole thing in a zip up mattress cover. A pain to get the foam into the cover but worth it.

This gives you a firm bed with soft feel, very lightweight and lasts forever.

Never found an air mattress worth the air to blow it up plus it is too bouncy.
captain ron (Captain_ron)

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Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 12:50 am:   

I use an air mattress and my only complaint is I have to repair it too often. other wise it's great, light and comfy.
Jim Bob

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Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 9:51 am:   

We use a queen sized Select comfort air bed on a waterbed pedastal. This works great. It is not hinged, but when we have to get to the engine hatch, the air mattress lifts out & stands on it's side edge against the side of the bus. The frame lifts up that way too. The platform is 3 sections made of 1/2" plywood. The smaller sections are easy to handle in the confined space. I actually only remove the center section, which leaves the two side pieces in place as somewhere to put tools, etc. (Be smart, cover these surfaces to keep your Other Half happy.) Once the platform is out of the way, you stand in the 24" area between the drawer pedastals, open the access & work away. If needed, the pedastals could be slid sideways for more room but this has not been necessary.

You can find a nice waterbed with drawer pedestals really cheap. Hold out for the ones made of pine boards, not particle board. If the 1/2" was adequate to hold two people AND the water, it will hold two people and air! And the whole mess is modular so it can be moved as needed.

But no matter what make of air mattress, high altitude will still be a problem. I wonder if we could fit a relief valve set to keep the air pressure normally used when you lie on it, but to "burp" if it became over pressurized as you climbed the Rockies?
Jim-Bob
James Maxwell (Jmaxwell)

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Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 10:35 am:   

Consider a Memory Foam mattress as an alternative. With some shopping you will be able to select a foam combination that yields the sleeping softness or firmness you like. Look on e-bay--good buys. I have a 5" firm base w/a 5"convoluted soft topper. The dimples of the memory topper are facing downward on the base, which softens the sleep. Also, if u use a Queen and want to lift the platform top from the foot of the bed (hinged at the headboard end) use 100# 18" gas lifters. For Queen size, an 18" fixed deck (over the rear engine housing) and a standard sheet of Baltic Birch hinged off the engine housing portion makes the perfect size for a Standard Queen.
Henry R. Bergman, Jr. (Henryofcj)

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Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 5:26 pm:   

The next standard size smaller than a Queen size is a "full size" or "double size" bed which measures around (varies somewhat from manufacture to manufacture) 54 to 55 inches wide and 74 to 75 inches long.

I slept for 3 years (mostly alone, alas, except for the dog!) on a full size mattress set and angle iron frame in my Crown Super Coach. Plenty of room except when Goldie (the dog!) pushed me out of bed.

All kinds of stuff ended up under the bed, including, not not limited to....dirty clothes, clean clothes, beer cans, wine bottles (lots of those!) and other junk which fell off the bed including way overdue library books. :-) :-)
Geoff (Geoff)

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Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 7:56 am:   

Here is a link with a couple of pictures on how I made my bed frame. I used 1" square tubing to make up the bottom section, and oak and plywood to make the sides and face frame. What the pictures don't show is that the board is hinged at the back with two gas lifts to hold it up to gain access.

http://www.cris.com/~nolids/jan03inter3.JPG

http://www.cris.com/~nolids/jan03inter7.JPG

I bought a queen air bed from:

http://www.AirBedz.com/air-index.htm

--Geoff
'82 RTS CA
t gojenola

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Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 1:59 pm:   

Just a thought about box springs:
If you choose to use one, remember that the box spring for a standard bouble bed is a one-piece box. It is probably too big to get in the coach in the first place. The queen size comes with a two piece box spring that you could probably get in there.

tg
Brian (Bigbusguy)

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Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 7:32 pm:   

Thanks all for all the good info.
Gives me some to start with.

Im may get somthing started this week.


Brian 4905

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