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Steve Zona (Highwayrunner)

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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 10:53 pm:   

Would appreciate any info regarding the use of MDF. As opposed to the use of plywood for sheating the walls and floors of an MCI 9. Thanks to JR for the info on tranny shifting and a special thanks to Danny French for the escape hatchs.
Getting there slowly... but getting there
Highwayrunner
Michael Lewis (Puffbus)

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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 12:22 am:   

Steve, Don't do it. MDF is useful as a floor underlayment and particularly where there is no flex or moisture. A bus is not one of those places. It won't hold screws without a backing, makes miserable curves and can contain urea. I'm sure I forgot something, but you get the idea. The few bucks you will save are not worth it.

Michael
Craig (Ceieio)

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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 12:33 am:   

MDF is really heavy, much more so than plywood. Moisture will be a problem. You can get MDO (used sometimes for roadsigns) and paint it so that it is moisture tolerant. You still have the weight issue though.

Go with the plywood, it is dimensionally stable, can be bought with varying degrees of moisture resistance, and holds a screw well (not in the end grain of course).

Craig - MC7
David Hartley (Drdave)

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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 10:30 am:   

My experience has been that "ANY" type of particle board is a really bad idea in a conversion even those storebought cabinets.
It only takes a small spill or water leak to destroy months of work. I had a countertop that disolved due to a leaking faucet washer.

The sticks and staples used particle board for just about everything. One roof vent or refer leak and the whole mess has to be replaced.

Stay with Plywood, real wood and Luan paneling.
Pine, Fir, Birch and Oak are the best.
Arthur J Griffith

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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 1:02 pm:   

Fellow Bus Nuts:
While we are on the subject of plywood flooring
I ran across a product that is called dB-Ply, it
is made by Greenwood Forest Prod. It is suppose to be a sound reducing plywood. It comes in 4x8
sheets. I ran across it in a supply warehouse
owned by Blue Bird co. It is used in their wood
applications where sound is a consern, floors,
engine, generators etc. I would think that it is
very pricey if it is available. Does anyone out
there in bus land know anything about this product or have used it. Any info would be
greatly appreciated.
ARTHUR
David Hartley (Drdave)

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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 1:25 pm:   

Here is a link..

http://www.greenwoodproducts.com/specialty.htm

I expect it probably is pricey...
captain ron (Captain_ron)

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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 1:52 pm:   

actualy MDF has great screw holding capabilities if going into the face but not edge, makes for nice edge treatments but as stated before is way too heavy and less than desireable for bus conversions. but is nice to use as a patern material if you are doing a lot of repetative cuts using a pattern bit on a router. ie. window cutouts, radius cuts for devider walls.
Arthur J Griffith

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Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 12:48 pm:   

THANKS DAVID
ARTHUR
Jim Stewart (H3jim)

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Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 6:22 pm:   

I suspect that the DB plywood is the same as Dick Wright sells. 4 x 8, 3/4" ply, polymer in the middle. When you rap on it, it just thunks, rather than rings.
about $110 a sheet.

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