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| ChuckMC9 (Chucks)
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I bought a 30' 50A power hose brand new which has the male end but stripped wires on the other end which would normally go to the main disconnect on an RV. I hoped to make an extension cord and put a female receptacle on the end but have been to two different elec supply houses and they say no dice. I'd rather not do a clunky wallbox homemade look, but will if that's all I can do. I lost patience with the Grainger site - do you know of a resource for a female end like the one in this photo?  | ||
| Ross Carlisle (Rrc62)
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If you're looking for a molded on receptacle like the one pictured, you won't find it. However, if you go to Home Depot, you'll find that a 4 prong range plug matches up, but that's probably the surface mount receptacle that you don't want. Ross | ||
| ChuckMC9 (Chucks)
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Thanks, Ross. I know it won't be molded, but was wanting something more 'cord-friendly' than a surface mount. You know, like a replacement receptacle for an extension cord except 50A. Like the plugs one can get, but female instead. | ||
| niles steckbauer (Niles500)
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Chuck - they have 30 amp cord - call their toll free # and see if they know where to get the 50 amp - Niles http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/rv-power-cords/13149.htm | ||
| Sean Welsh (Sean)
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Chuck, AFAIK, it doesn't exist, because there is no market for it. The handful of manufacturers that make 50A extension cords, dogbones, and pigtails for RVs use molded-on connectors such as the one pictured. Most everyone who is making detachable shore cords uses a twist-to-lock style female on the coach end of the cord (and these are readily available). In the fixed-construction market, nothing using this style of plug is permited on an extension cord. So about the best you can do is the all-in-one, surface-mount style receptacle. That will be a bit more compact (and stylish?) than building one out of metal box and other parts. That being said, if you make it yourself, you will be able to use outdoor-rated parts, at least for the box, cover, and cord entry. The surface-mount units are definitely not outdoor construction. Good luck! -Sean | ||
| thattruckerguy
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what you want is manufactured by Progressive industries.Cary, NC There mil address is 414 airport rd, Morrisville NC 27560. The phone I have for them is 919 462 8280. I do not think they have a website | ||
| David Dulmage (Daved)
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PPL shows a 50A extension cord on their website at http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/rv-power-cords/50-amp-power-cord.htm DaveD | ||
| niles steckbauer (Niles500)
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David - your right - but all he wants is the female end - Niles | ||
| Jack Gregg (Jackinkc)
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They make a “dog bone” adapter for 50Amp female to 30 amp male. I am not sure if this female plug could be used; the two legs could be wired together in the molded female plug. I don’t know how to test it without buying one and cutting off the plug. After splicing, seal it up with silicone tape or shrink tubing! There is a new product line available with a handle on the back of the 50 amp plugs (male & female); they are bright yellow; I don’t know the manufacturer but they are quite handy. Jack | ||
| John that newguy Rating: N/A |
Chuck- Go to any RV shop and buy a 50 amp female connector. (I did) http://www.campingworld.com/search/index.cfm?action=search&tcode=11&keywords=50+amp+socket http://www.nooutage.com/rjbc6364.htm I'd post all the URLs, but it'd fill the entire bbs. | ||
| Brian (Bigbusguy)
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Any electral supply will have one the will work like a extansion cord end I have on at my house on a 25' coard from the main house disconnect to reach my bus . Brian 4905 Klamath Falls Oregon | ||
| ChuckMC9 (Chucks)
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Thanks anyway guys - the surface mount from Homely Depart it will be - changing to a Marinco-style twistlock defeats the porpose, and cutting one off a dogbone would be far from the 'stylish' solution Sean knows I'm looking for.  The little photo on this page shows what should be it, but the detail photo isn't correct. I'll call them tomorrow.  Progressive doesn't list it with their adaptors, but I'll call them as well just in case. So Sean, in my quest to consistently grow my stylishness optimization coefficient, it will be the surface mount most likely. That was the reason for the thread! This is what I want, only in 50A, but no bulky boxes. It has to fit thru a marine deck plate in the bay floor, which the surface mount just barely does. And NO, JtNG, I'm NOT opening the bay door and securing it with a CHAIN. How declass.  Thanks again, gents! | ||
| Jtng Rating: N/A |
Re: "the 'stylish' solution Sean knows I'm looking for" Yeah, OK Man... But you'll prolly have to use something other than duct tape for steering wheel wrap, too. | ||
| ChuckMC9 (Chucks)
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Guess that means I can't use duct tape to attach the skin like I wuz planning, either... | ||
| Jtng Rating: N/A |
Chuck- Seriously, those ends can be bought at any decent RV shop. I paid about $20 for each... I bought both the male and female ends. I thought I'd mate them and go into business. It was at a time in my life that I really needed an outlet. Unfortunately, they were ac/dc and only produced bi-directional RCA jacks. Sorry.... I'm rambling... | ||
| Sean Welsh (Sean)
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Hey Chuck... I did not think to look at the Camco stuff. That's a brand new product, only been out a few months, IIRC. I thought they were molded on, but the photos seem to show what could be a clam-shell type attachment. If it is, it might be worthwhile for you to buy their dogbone and scavenge the connectors from it. When you find out, please let us know if these are really assembled units, or molded in place. I'd like to know for future reference. -Sean | ||
| Bill Endres
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Chuck: They don't make a 50 amp cap that you are looking for, you will have to use a 50 amp RV receptacle that you can get at any RV store. They are about 16 bucks without the cover and box. You can't use a range receptacle cause the ground post is D shaped instead of round for RVs. Bill ragingbull@wcoil.com PS Just went out of the RV business, can't find one I've got 3 left, they don't make a weather proof cover for them either. | ||
| Sean Welsh (Sean)
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Bill, 30 amp RV outlets are specific to RVs only. 50 amp "RV" outlets are identical to the 50-amp range outlet you can buy in Home Depot. The issue of whether any given plug has a round or D-shaped ground tang is irrelevant, as they will both fith the D-shaped hole in the receptacle. AFAIK, there is no reason why RV manufacturers need to use one type of tang over the other, and the same goes for range manufacturers. -Sean | ||
| John that newguy Rating: N/A |
Actually, there is..... The RV type was for 50 amp 120vac. (120v per leg) The fact that you can use 220 appliances with it (if the park supplies 50 amp per leg), is incidental. No RV manufacturer had previously suggested 220v appliance usage, just 50 amp, 110vac. Most manufacturers did not recommend plugging into a 220v "stove" outlet. | ||
| Sean Welsh (Sean)
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JTNG, Your quaint ideas about this are getting tiresome. There are people reading this thread who need FACTS, not your presumptive ideas about how things work, or should work, or may work in some alternate universe. 50-amp RV plugs are NEMA 14-50, plain and simple. What's wired to the plug on the RV end or the receptacle on the campground end may be a matter of debate (although the code says there's only one right way to wire it), but that's the standard connector. It's in black and white in article 551 of the NEC, and is repeated in the RVIA's handbook guide to NFPA 1192. You show me an OEM 50-amp RV power cord on an RV built today by any (regular) manufacturer (for the US market) that won't fit in a NEMA 14-50R. Just one. I dare ya. -Sean | ||
| ChuckMC9 (Chucks)
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Aaaaah, if this were only usenet... IF subject = anything electrical, esp. as it relates to "back in the day", "urban or not-so-urban legend", "the way we were" AND poster = JtNG THEN PLONK Sean, I'm going to rig the receptacle non-sylishly for now and keep an eye out for the desired thing. Will let you know if I come across one. | ||
| Sean Welsh (Sean)
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Chuck, So, inquiring minds want to know: what happened with the Camco yellow jobbies with the little loop handles? Did those turn out to be molded on? -Sean | ||
| ChuckMC9 (Chucks)
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I called a few RV retailers and they never heard of them. I'll call the Mfgr tomorrow and see if they sell direct to the public. In the total conversion, this is a minor thing compared to the head-scratching I've done up until now and have in store for me. | ||
| Bill Endres
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Chuck: Goto rvsurplus.net. They have got what you are looking for, goto cords and adapters. Say hello to Trina for me sweetest little gal in the world. Did business with them since 1989. Bill E. | ||
| Jtng Rating: N/A |
Jeeez, "PLONK"? Indeed! He said: "there is no reason why RV manufacturers need to use one type of tang over the other" And all I am trying to tell youse... that at the time they engineered 50 amp service into the RVs, they did not want RVrs thinking they had 220 ability. At that time, all they were providing were two 110v legs. So they engineered a plug that was different... Man.... you want me to dig out URLs to substantiate that? PLONK | ||
| ChuckMC9 (Chucks)
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JtNG, I like history, I really do! Bill, that'll do nicely. I'll call tomorrow and say hello to Trina. Thanks for your help. https://www.rvsurplussalvage.com/catalog/display.php?product_id=3038 | ||
| Stan Rating: N/A |
JTNG: Believing everything you read on the internet is like believing all the posts that appear on this BB. Unless you are reading legislation posted by the government department that passed it, you are reading someone's opinion, nothing more. | ||
| Richard Bowyer (Drivingmisslazy)
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Jtng, I would like to see URL's, or anything else, indicating that NEMA actually designed, and then got the manufacturing industry to actually manufacture, a totally new set of electrical connectors specifically for the RV industry. The market would be so small that is seems hard to believe it would be a worthwhile investment. Richard | ||
| John that newguy Rating: N/A |
Uhhhh-huh. So, when Sean questions the reason for a round or d shaped ground tang..... what do you suppose the reason was? "The issue of whether any given plug has a round or D-shaped ground tang is irrelevant, as they will both fith the D-shaped hole in the receptacle. AFAIK, there is no reason why RV manufacturers need to use one type of tang over the other, and the same goes for range manufacturers. " This is a dead horse. I will try to refrain from making further comments when anyone says "AFAIK". (I am happy to see Sean and others are now acknowledging the fact that not all campgrounds supply the proper amperage to their 50 amp receptacles.) | ||
| FAST FRED Rating: N/A |
"Unless you are reading legislation posted by the government department that passed it, you are reading someone's opinion, nothing more." Its still OPINION untill the Suprime Court (self apointed arbiter of all laws,since Madison v Mareburry) decides if it fits with their world view on any particular day. FAST FRED |