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gary bowman
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 9:17 pm: | |
Trying to figure out what is good for the outside paint, metal, glass, rims. Looking at these three polymers (no wax, silicones or other products)
Rejex www.corrosionx.com
Zaino Z-2 www.zainostore.com
5-Star www.5starshine.com
Zaino has the best info for the overall project of protection. Z-2 is more known for show cars so don't know about on-the-road durability. It is a one step product.
5star is said to last 3-5 years but it is expensive in dollars: $70/bottle x 5 bottles for the bus. On the 5starshine web site the color chart shows that PTFE is the hands down best. Found out that PTFE is generic Teflon. It IS best if it is 'burnished' on with heat and pressure- you come out with a teflon pan coating. But for you and me, putting it on with a rag doesn't come out that good. The higher price is to make you believe you are getting the long lasting teflon pan but it won't last that long. Good to know since it's so high priced. It may be a good product. It's a two step product.
Rejex is to be applied about each 6 months and perhaps so the others? A one step product.
Does anyone have experience with these three? |
niles steckbauer (Niles500)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 9:23 pm: | |
Gary - the guy that does my coach is the same one who does the buses @ Lazy Days in Tampa - he uses an automotive product w/ a teflon additive - although I don't know the name since he supplies it - it works fine as far as I'm concerned - Niles |
niles steckbauer (Niles500)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 9:48 pm: | |
Teflon (PTFE) Treatment
Telfon (PTFE) is a relatively new product additive in the auto care industry. Some automobile product manufacturers who market these products advertise Teflon wax, (sometimes referring to them as sealants or polish) as an extremely long lasting product, with a protection span for your vehicle's finish for anywhere from one to five years(sometimes longer). Unfortunately, this claim is dubious. Teflon has a dull, flat appearance on the vehicle's surface, so if a large enough quantity is used to "protect" the paint, the paint will, in fact appear dull, this makes the entire procedure all but useless. For Teflon to be applied to a metal surface effectively, it must be baked on at a very high temperature. Applying a spray on product or Teflon mixed with water product is not effectively bound to the surface. The chemical formulation necessary to make a good binding cannot be completed at low temperature. In theory, Teflon has advantages, in practical applications it does not meet customer expectations. Most car waxes that contain Teflon have actually added a very small amount of Teflon into the wax or sealant and call it a Teflon wax or sealant. Because the amounts are so small the Teflon added is ineffective as a finish protector, once again casting doubt on the products effectiveness. Even the manufacturer of Teflon does not recommend using it as a car wax... read the next paragraph.
The maker of Teflon (DuPont) has issued the following statement: "The addition of a Teflon fluoropolymer resin does nothing to enhance the properties of a car wax. We have no data that indicates the use of Teflon is beneficial in car waxes."
FWIW -Niles |
James Maxwell (Jmaxwell)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 11:55 pm: | |
PTFE: Same as in Slick 50? Must be great; hell, you never have to use oil in the crankcase after u use Slick 50! |
airless in Mississippi (Airless_in_mississippi)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 2:03 am: | |
Raysik v. Quaker State - Slick 50, Inc. (United States District Court for the Northern District of Texas)
A consumer class action alleging that Quaker State - Slick 50, Inc. sold engine treatments that failed to provide promised extended engine life.
The case settled for $20 million payable to the class in cash rebates.
http://www.ftc.gov/os/1997/12/bluecora.do.htm
Yet another citing. |
David Hartley (Drdave)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 9:36 pm: | |
The Slick 50 deal was a formulation change that caused problems. I have used Slick 50 and never had a problem in Gas, Diesels and small engines. It in my opinion has saved one abused diesel engine 2 times now from driver brain failure. The Isuzu 4BD1T lost coolant 2 times due to a bad hose and the driver is so smart that he figured that since the engine was still running he would simply continue on his deliveries. The sound of an exploding hose and cloud of steam never registered as a problem, He just kept going.
I had a dodge Caravan with a 2.0 liter engine blow a heater hose 30 miles from nowhere and no place to pull over. I had Slick 50 in the oil, The engine did not sieze up and I made it the 30 miles to a repair place. I figured that if it was toast I might as well go as far as possible towards population. It does work! I drove that van for another 30,000 miles before trading it.
2 Things I use: Slick 50 Products and Lucas Oil Products, I have never been happier and never been disappointed. |
airless in Mississippi (Airless_in_mississippi)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 11:57 pm: | |
They say snake oil did cure everything. I have a high volume of it available of it if anyone needs any. I sell it for only 24.95 a bottle. Run it in a engine and it will run. Poor it into a gas tank and it will flow. Poor it into oil and it will mix. This stuff will give you increased miles to the store, Help you burn less fuel, we offer delivery of this for only 1.00. That is complete with shipping only 25.95 per bottle. One bottle will treat 12 tankfulls of gas. Special pricing for 12 bottle case of 125.00 per case including free shipping. |
Stephen Fessenden (Sffess)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 6:46 pm: | |
I like the demos of oil additives that start running water on the open valve train "just to make conditions worse". Water is also a lubricant and a coolant in the demo. Water may be a poor lubricant, but is does lubricate. Will one of you brave souls, when you happen on this demo type at an auto show or a fair, quietly go turn off the hose. Then see how the demo goes.
Slik 50 however does have a record of some engine saves, including a single engine aircraft. I would not put it in my Detroit or my Perkins, but it does have a place. |
Stephen Fessenden (Sffess)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 6:47 pm: | |
By the way, following this thread, I gather that I should wax my bus with Slik 50. We got a little off topic. |