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niles steckbauer (Niles500)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 7:39 pm: | |
While watching the news tonight - came across a report on a company doing business just miles away that has been producing HHO for gas welding from water - they have recently engineered and tested a ford escort to run on their system - It has gone into, and passed, initial testing - the report said that the US gov and major auto maker are negotiating with them - the DOD is currently working with them in producing a Hummer that will operate on their system - Quite amusing to show them pouring WATER in the fuel tank - and its ironic that I , for one , was totally unaware of this technology - here's the link - do any of the PE's out there have any comments?
http://hytechapps.com/science/
Niles |
niles steckbauer (Niles500)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 7:45 pm: | |
sorry - wrong link - here's the right one -
http://hytechapps.com/applications/HHOS.htm |
niles steckbauer (Niles500)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 8:04 pm: | |
For the PE's -
http://thethirdingredient.com/PiorArt4/Prior%20Art%20dcjo.htm |
Tim Strommen (Tim_strommen)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 9:48 pm: | |
It'll be interesting to see what happens with that...
Tim |
James Maxwell (Jmaxwell)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 9:48 pm: | |
I certainly hope it is succesfull. I'm sure that if he can make this go over, we could move on to full Hydrogen Fuel Cell power with a lot less resistance. If they could prove it's viability in a fleet operation, that would go a long way. As for the governments involvement, I would not put a lot of stock in that, since they really don't give a damn if it is cost effective or not. I know GM and Toyota both have working prototypes but I have heard no plans for marketing.
I see Hydrogen fuel cells as the only viable alternative energy source currently known. There is a genuine safety factor consideration involved and there may be some heavy environmental issues, I don't know. I know it has been played with since the mid 1930's, but until very recently no one could seem to keep it from going "boom" in an uncontrolled fashion. |
niles steckbauer (Niles500)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 10:36 pm: | |
James - don't confuse this with fuel cell technology - where off site production of H2 + O2 is combusted - this is on board production of H H O from H2O - if this tech is valid all the problems and complications which have inhibited fuel cell tech will be null - as far as the safety factors, according to the literature the only thing your tanks carry is H2O - the fuel is not stored on board, but immediately injected into the fuel system - wildly (in my mind) they claim that the energy involved in creating it only requires an over sized (not drastically) alternator - this is a whole nuther ball game - Niles |
Phil Dumpster2
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 5:40 am: | |
Wow, it's the bigger blanket theory all over again. Or "Brown's gas" by any other name.
As Barnum said, "there's a sucker born every minute." |
Stan
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 8:24 am: | |
As I understand the links, the HHO gas is used to improve the efficiency of fossil fuels. Since we get such a small percentage of useful energy out of every gallon of fuel burned, in an internal combustion engine, this is feasable.
I don't think they are even suggesting that they can get 17 HP out of the gas that only took 4 HP to generate. |
James Maxwell (Jmaxwell)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 10:26 pm: | |
From the way I read it, that is precisely what they are suggesting and claiming. What I didn't see was any mention of the device that controls the injection of this into an internal combustion engine. If it is capable of 10k degrees, this could cause some serious meltdown if it happen to be over-injected. |