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| Gary Stadler (Boogiethecat)
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Anyone out there have a take on using Sikaflex 552 instead of 252 for skinning? The Sika sales brochure puts it in the same class, and says the difference is that 552 "gives great adhesion with little or no surface preparation"... Comments? I am soon to skin a trailer with aluminum over a steel frame. Anything obvious I should know? Thanks! | ||
| R.C.Bishop
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Steve Padgett, SikaUSA....don't have his phone handy, but it is in the archives. FWIW RCB | ||
| David (Davidinwilmnc)
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I just used 252 (I think that's the number) for the alum. skin on my MC-8. The only things obvious I can think of are: 1) Work quickly 2) Clamp/ rivet the skin 'til the Sika cures (not very long) 3) Pick up a cheap pneumatic caulk gun, if you don't have one. It makes it really easy to get a consistant bead of Sika (or caulk). | ||
| Gary Stadler (Boogiethecat)
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One more question.. WHERE do I get the stuff? I called Sika and they referred me to the only "distributor" nearby (600 miles away) who in turn told me there is a $350 minimum..geez... | ||
| R.C.Bishop
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Austinhardware.com HTH RCB | ||
| John MC9 Rating: N/A |
Sikaflex retailers - San Diego | ||
| Gary Stadler (Boogiethecat)
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I lied... yet another question, what about the primer they mention in their data sheets? Austin Hardware doesn't mention carrying it... do you guys even use it? Thanks! | ||
| Paul Ghelli (57shadowdog)
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call rich @ I B P .1800-468-5287. great stuff. The primer seems to help a lot. They have a 50$ minimum I think. great help. good people. @ i b p. paul | ||
| John Jewett (Jayjay)
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I don't remember IBP having a $50.00 minimum, except perhaps to get free shipping. Ask Rich for more info, or to see a couple of the most beautiful women in Central Florida, stop by the Office/Showroom and buy in person. Cheers...JJ | ||
| Jack Conrad (Jackconrad)
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IIRC, a while back when I placed an order, Rich told me they were going to go to a $50.00 minumum order policy beginng the next month. Jack | ||
| R.C.Bishop
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$50 minimum for Sika products is a drop in the bucket for skinning a trailer, I should think....IIRC correctly, it took about a half dozen tubes of 252 to reskin the window portion of our coach, and much of that section was left in windows. SikaUSA (Steve Padgett) will gladly furnish you with full printed instuctions and advice about using their products. Like a Webasto,also a German product, Sika is a great tool in bus conversion and if used according to recommendation, should be no problems down the line. After 4 years, I have encountered none.....Thank the LORD. If all else fails....follow directions.  Squeaky wheels get greased...... RCB | ||
| Larry Rating: N/A |
http://www.sikaindustry.com/ind/ipd-transoem-body http://www.sikaautomotive.com/news-auto-2004.sikadamp_312_intro.us.pdf | ||
| steve padgett Rating: N/A |
This is Steve from Sika. 552 or 252 will both work very well to bond your side skins. 552 uses a little different technology which lessens the need for primers. However, I'd be careful with steel because of rust. Rust can undercut the bead of adhesive over time and cause it to separate. The best way to prevent that is to paint the steel struts. Lightly scuff the painted steel and the aluminum sheet, then wipe with Sika Cleaner 226. Allow to dry for ten minutes. Apply a V-shaped bead of 552. Press 1/8" rubber washers or ceramic tile spacers next to the bead (this is maintain proper bead thickness) and apply the skin. Apply pressure to skin to assure contact and lightly clamp or tape into place for a few hours. Any other questions, give me a call at 888-832-7452. | ||
| R.C.Bishop
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Hey, Hey, Steve...great information. I was hoping you'd chiume in here!. There you have it, Gary....from 'da man who knows! Thanx, Steve RCB | ||
| niles steckbauer (Niles500)
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Steve Padgett - Hi - got a question for you - have you ever considered possibly notifying the boards that you frequent of upcoming Sika'd installations by non-professionals (I mean in the fact that they are not 'paid' professional installers - not as to the quality of the work) in advance so that some might be able to travel to see an "actual" textbook installation? - I know it would be tough to coordinate - but there is a lot of interest in your product and it is a very hot topic on the boards - Just a thought - Niles | ||
| John MC9 Rating: N/A |
Free samples would be nice too, Steve! | ||
| niles steckbauer (Niles500)
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.... err .... John .... he's not a Trojan rep .... Har Har | ||
| John MC9 Rating: N/A |
Then why's his hands so sticky? | ||
| ChuckMC9 (Chucks)
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He should give a free sample to NASA. They could use it! | ||
| Gary Stadler (Boogiethecat)
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Thanks Steve. I've already painted the steel with Rustoleum primer but I wouldn't think that would be strong enough to hold things...weak link in the chain kinda thing..... I'm palnning to wire brush it away where I'm applying the sika, and after it's all done I'll spraypaint everything from the backside to re seal it. It'll be inside a storage trailer so I doubt moisture will be a problem anyway. Thanks for the tips...I'll be skinning this weekend! Kind regards Gary |