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Mike Taylor (Mc9er)

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Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 1:10 pm:   

Hi everyone :-)
Does anyone have a solution for replacing right rear trailing axle leg bracket attached to the Bogie assembly? Rust had taken its toll and the bracket is mangled. Luckily I was moving it around in the yard instead of going 70 mph on down the road. I contacted MCI about a replacement part but they say it has been suspended. Any suggestion????
Jack Conrad (Jackconrad)

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Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 4:28 pm:   

International Bus & Parts in Apopka, FL 800-468-5287 has rebuilt tag axle components. Another option is to try Luke at U S Coach 888-coach34 for a used one. Hope this helps, Jack
Jim Ashworth (Jimnh)

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Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 5:41 pm:   

Another option is Sam Caylor in Rantoul, KS. He parts out a lot of MCI (only) stuff. Don't have a number for him, though.

Jim
john w. roan (Chessie4905)

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Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 8:49 pm:   

Unless the opposite side has been replaced recently, or is in immaculate condition you might want to do them both as the remaining side probably isn't in the greatest shape either. Luke is good for parts or IBP as Jack said....do both now and be done with it as the parts will probably only be harder to get in the future.How many times have any of us on the board fixed something and kicked themselves later for not doing the other whatever including myself. Peace of mind can be priceless.Any way you can then scratch the job from the list of the many things you will have to deal with if you have a conversion. Pity the guys with the maga $$$$ new coaches as they never have to fix anything of significance. You never get to KNOW your coach if you never have to repair anything. Helps make you self reliant.The goal is... can you get it back on the road yourself if you have a breakdown? Not everybody's goal of course.By the way... you should'nt have a coach long without shop manuals- even if you don't do your own repairs yet. Sorry for the rambling... fingers must have gotten into too much caffeine.
John MC9

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Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 9:16 pm:   

"Pity the guys with the maga $$$$ new coaches as they never
have to fix anything of significance. "


Yeah pity..

(there goes another of my dream bubbles down the drain)
ChuckMC9 (Chucks)

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Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 11:12 pm:   

Mike, I'm a little unclear about what you mean, "bracket", but if you're speaking of the arm that goes into the axle tube on one end and the wheel spindle on the other, MCI definitely has these. You may not have gotten the real scoop.

2F-6-110 Tube-bearing about $160

2F-6-77 Spindle-tag axle about $500

otherwise, can you elaborate on "bracket"? Are you speaking of the pieces which hold the whole axle on? I hope not because I believe you would be talking about replacing the entire axle assembly. (which might not be the horrible thing that it would seem)

I have more info on actually doing the whole job and other resources - if you will clarify I'll throw some research your way that I did last year.
Mike Taylor (Mc9er)

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Posted on Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 8:33 am:   

Thanks Everyone :-)
Your right, the left side is rusted bad but not mangled yet. I plan on doing both sides. Don't want to have to deal with it again. As far as "bracket" meaning, its not the axle or any part there. Its the arm extension off the rear Bogie assembly. Part# 3K-56-74 on page 3.5925 of the MC9 parts manual. I was wondering if a good fabrication shop could correctly fabricate new ones and attach to the Bogie assembly? The air channels on the Bogie assembly seem to be solid. I know there has been talk about not welding to a frame because it weakens the metal. However, the existing legs seem to have been welded from the factory. You are all Great! Thanks for the comments!
Mike Taylor (Mc9er)

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Posted on Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 8:46 am:   

Does anyone know how difficult is to install the Air Bag suspension plate kits IBP sells? I talked with Steve at IBP he says the plates mount on the air bag and bypass the Bogie assembly in which you tee off with a 1/8 inch line to the plates. I realize this will eliminate the leak down but, I am concerned about an extra line hanging around back there routed around the axles. I was thinking if I have leg brackets fabricated and close of the air from the Bogie assembly and install the plates that would clear up a few issues. Any ideas?
Jack Conrad (Jackconrad)

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Posted on Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 12:20 pm:   

The block-off plates are for the air bags on the rear drive axle, not the tag (bogie) axle. My understanding is that if the single wheel in in front of the drive axle (Eagle) this is a bogie axle. If it is behind the drive axle (MCI & Prevost) it is a tag axle. The tag axle on a MCI uses a rolling lobe air bag. Block off plates are for the OEM style double convolute air bags used on the MCI drive axle and front axle. The block off plate goes between the airbag and the air beam. The air beam is a steel rectangular tube about 8" wide x 8" tall by about 3'long with 2 round tubes coming out of the bottom. This is where the air bags attach (and where the block off plates are installed).Hope this helps, Jack
Jon W.

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Posted on Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 1:05 pm:   

OK, so my Prevost isn't new, but the first was two years old when I got it and drove it for 15 years, and the current one was 7 years old and I have it now for a year. But I sure got a kick out of the remark:

"Pity the guys with the maga $$$$ new coaches as they never have to fix anything of significance. You never get to KNOW your coach if you never have to repair anything. Helps make you self reliant.The goal is... can you get it back on the road yourself if you have a breakdown?"

Air bags, brake relining, brake pads, leveling valves, ride height valves, brake chambers, refrigerators, cruise airs, speedomoeter, heaters, alternators, hub seals, Jake brake solenoids, all routine maintenance, radiator, and of course the normal stuff like batteries and tires, switches and lights. The list is what I have repaired, rebuilt or replaced. I have made fixtures to make air bag replacement easier, I have a test rig for the Norgren leveling valves because I rebuild my own.

Since I started using Equal I replace or repair my own tires. The new Prevost owners virtually live at "Camp Prevost" which is either Prevost or their converter getting the bugs out of the new coach so they don't get the enjoyment of digging grease out from under their fingernails.

I admit I am anal about my bus but since I started doing all my own work I have never been down along side of the road. The last time I was along side of the road was a year ago when a bus AC compressor replaced by Carrier (because I ran out of time) set my bus on fire. That is why I now have a newer one.
ChuckMC9 (Chucks)

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Posted on Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 1:28 pm:   

The least I can do is post a photo of the area since it's still not clear from da book exactly which part this is.

tagle

You mean the big honkin' airbag support where the top of the shock is also mounted? Waaay beyond my skills so far, but at least you can elaborate...
Mike Taylor (Mc9er)

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Posted on Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 3:12 pm:   

Thanks Chuck MC9 :-)
Thats the one. Only thing is the hook is up around where the Shock attaches.
Thanks for the photo. Do you think there is a possiblitiy a fabrication shop can make new ones?
Ron Walker (Prevost82)

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Posted on Monday, August 22, 2005 - 11:56 am:   

A good Fab shop should be able to built one and cut the old one out and weld the new one in.
Ron

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