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john david lebrun (Davidlebrun)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 1:29 pm: | |
I in the process of rebuilting the mouse trap on my 4106. Does anybody have a supplier for the assist springs.
I checked with US Coach, with no joy.
I can get the pins and bearing's pretty easily, but at this moment can't find a supply for the springs.
Thanks |
TWODOGS (Twodogs)
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try international bus..800-468-5287 |
gusc
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 6:00 pm: | |
I'm in the market for a complete mouse trap for my 4104, anyone know of one for sale?
I have a 671 manual and know it will need to be modified but I think I can do it.
Has anyone done this?
Thanks |
Strephen H. Polson (Sleepless)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 5:56 am: | |
What is a mouse Trap? |
john david lebrun (Davidlebrun)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 6:44 am: | |
TD;
Thanks I give them a call today.
david |
Stan
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 8:34 am: | |
Strephen: The mouse trap referred to is a spring assist on the clutch that was used on some GM busse. |
john david lebrun (Davidlebrun)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 9:39 am: | |
Well I called International bus, and no joy.
David |
mel 4104
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 10:38 am: | |
John your local auto parts store should have them and if not go to your local auto wrecker yard and find a set off the hood springs or the seats. Gusc trying to find one is hard to do but you can make one if you have the time as they are easy to do you just need one to look at as you make one and your local bearing place has all the brass bushing and bearings that you will need. the one that i made for a 4104 works great as the fellow that has it left he yard with a big smile on his face, however i do not know if the smile was because it worked so well or the fact that he did not pay me for the parts or labour and i know it is still working as he drives the bus all over the place telling how good it works.the good part of it is he will come back into my yard some day and that bus will not start again until he pays up. mel 4104 |
john david lebrun (Davidlebrun)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 9:10 pm: | |
Mel;
Thanks for the idea, I check the local junkyards.
david |
Tom Caffrey (Pvcces)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 1:40 am: | |
John, ours has what looks like hood springs, so that ought to get you close enough.
Good luck.
Tom Caffrey PD4106-2576
Suncatcher |
john david lebrun (Davidlebrun)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 8:09 am: | |
Thanks guys, There's an outfit in Cal. called
century spring corp. that looks like they have something to work.
After looking at the springs a little more, the hood spring idea should work.
I got it back together on Sat. and would say the pedal effort has been reduced by 80%, still too hard for the wife.
I'll going to start the adjustment from the front to the back now, the PO boxed over the access panel in the rear, and I'm going to put some kind of hinge panel over it, so that access is restored, for not only the clutch adjustment but starter replacement.
In looking over the adjustment procdurce in the manual, I'm looking at the adjustment measuring tool and it looks to me that what's wanted is 3/4 inch between the clutch rod and the adjusting plate, is this correct?
If this doesn't get the clutch pedal force any lower, I have to run it down to Luke and see if they can adjust the pressure plate fingers, this is out of my league at the moment.
Thanks.
David 4106-2774 |
FAST FRED
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 6:18 am: | |
A U shaped piece of 3/4 plywood is the perfect gage.
Be sure to eyeball the big lever arm that actually operated the clutch (where you measure the space).
If the tranny has been out the arm may not be on correctly , so it pulls at a 90deg angle to the throwout shaft. This will increase the effort needed if misaligned.
The procedure starting under the clutch pedal should be followed exactally all the way to the rear. It will only need to be checked once in your coaches life , but you never know what was done with 35 years of "mechanics" .
With the mousetrap and everything working corectly the pedal push is easily done by hand.
FAST FRED |
john david lebrun (Davidlebrun)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 4:14 pm: | |
Thanks Fred.
I went to the junk yard yesterday looking for the springs, and all the pickup trucks used springs that measured 8.5 inches closed, versus the spec'ed 6.20 inches.
I think I'm going with the Centruy Spring Corp part number 5694.
David |