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| guy johnson (Mcigeorge)
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How do you all lock up your bus? I am concerned about the engine bay doors, fuel and battery door. Are there any kits or fancy ideas to lock these up? | ||
| FAST FRED Rating: N/A |
"A lock only keeps out the Honest man." On the "Sportscar of Coaches" we drilled a slot in the lift handles and installed a 1/2 inch ring bolted thru the bay door. Keyed alike padlocks make 6 bays useable with out huge fumbeling. If cut open its EZ to repair, the lock is the weak point. The entry door has a keyed truck door lock which is really safe as it unlocks from the inside by just a pull, (no thinking in an emergency). The waste & fuel are locked with the same key as the front door , comes as a set when you buy a new truck lock. Engine compartment has a small hole drilled thru the oil check door where a good quality cable bike lock make it secure. There is an air drain behind the tranny door that empties the compressors filter/muffler, I leave it open so no air pressure will build , making theft only possible for a bus pro. A burgular alarm is only worth while where it will be responded to. We use a tripwire Burgelar Mist setup should someone come in thru a window , they are stuck inside with 8oz of mace blasting. A cattle fence exciter (12v) works well in places where too many folks "look with their hands". FAST FRED | ||
| R.J.(Bob) Evans (Bobofthenorth)
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- keyed alike Master padlocks on all the bay doors - truck door mechanism on the entrance - RV compartment locks keyed alike to control the door to the gennie compartment, radiator access and rear engine doors | ||
| PAUL COLLYER (Paso_1)
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Love your Ideas Fred you are as crazy as I am On some of my collector cars I've incorporated some of the things and variations of what you did. Didn't you suggest a cool way to use your flare gun awhile back  I forget the story. I have a Idea for the use of a paintball gun for the late night shoppers | ||
| Jack Gregg (Jackinkc)
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This is way off topic but the discussion reminded me of our recent discovery that if you stick a lit railroad flare in a mole run the mole will start tunneling like crazy. Remaining efforts are completed with a manure fork or shovel. | ||
| TWODOGS (Twodogs)
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try to google: "RODENATOR" | ||
| CoryDane Rating: N/A |
Paul Are you thinking a PAINTBALL GUN would be useful in leiu of a real gun? Or have you come up with a different use, or better yet, a different "FILL" for the paint ball "AMMO"? I have also thought about the paintball gun however if used for protection, it had better make a point or the grunts coming for YOUR property won't stop the attack. I wonder if that ink-stain that is used in banks ( they throw in the sack when giving the robbers the money and it explodes, leaving the money useless and hopefully stains the face of the robber for easy marking ) if that stain is obtainable and can be inserted in the paintball ammo? How about Stun Guns? I have dogs so FF's MACE idea would not be too great for me. Too bad we can't get the African hunters receipe that they use on the darts to temporaily "paralyze" their prey. Oh, THINK AGAIN CORY, todays law providers protect the robbers, any thing you do agianst them is YOUR FAULT and you will be sued accordingly. Whats a guy to do?? cd | ||
| Marc Bourget Rating: N/A |
cd, I agree with your sentiment but for the sake of accuracy . . . Today's laws (not including after impositino of martial law, as in NO, recently) prohibit unreasonable response to a known or (reasonably) perceived threat. In this regard the laws disallow use of deadly force or potential for great bodily injury simply to protect personal property. This would include shock wires and curare and/or venom darts, etc. I think some places prohibit using deadly force against an attacker when they aren't a relative, etc. (So, we call the cops when it's a neighbor? Go, figure!) People in such situations get themselves in trouble they otherwise would avoid because they fail to think before they speak to the authorities. At the forefront of my point is the old, incorrect, advice to "drag 'em back inside" after you shoot 'em in the back while they're running away. The blood trail would be enough and the conflicting story would spell your end. The best explaination I heard was at a weapon's handling class. An intruder awakens a sleeping homeowner, who confronts the intruder with a firearm. Instead of leaving immediately upon demand, the intruder decides to "talk" and moves latterally, distrating gestures, etc. This is simply a brave individual still up to mischief and, being that the homeowner has a gun, the continued engagement argues very strongly that the intruder is intent upon committing serious injury. Up to that point of the class I would have overlooked the nuance of "still up to (serious) mischief", but no longer. By failing to respond to the demand to leave, the intruder has arguably continued the "attack". If the guy was crazy, you don't have time or obligation to do a personal assessment test. All things considered, I'd rather me or my loved one still be alive to testify at the trial than be a rape victim or the defenseless corpse. There are asset protections devices to deal with the liability issues. Finally, the instructor at the class gave some great advice. Before talking to authorities, state that you're really emotional and upset and want to settle down and collect your thoughts before you make a statement, then call an attorney! Onward and Upward Marc Bourget | ||
| Jack Conrad (Jackconrad)
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Another saying: Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6 Jack | ||
| B"H"M (Dragon)
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To correct the misconception of a paintball gun not being useful what you are describing as grunts are a PBG used at field allowed speeds not to exceed 300 fps. Some guns allow adjustment to a far higher speeds (I have one that cronos over 600 fps but costs more stock than a new AR-15). In canada where handguns are illegal we used to take it on camping trips away from where the crowds are and had to use it once against a pack(5)of drunk loggers. Worked like a charm but takes different tactics. Shooting one then hoping they go away doesn't work but hosing all of them in unprotected areas(hands,elbows,groin,knees,shins etc) with over 100 rounds (this gun will max out at 9 rnds a sec and yes it's that accurate and doesn't break balls in the gun) left all of them on the ground and the threat of the next 100 being head shots along with a discription what permenant damage that would do made them decide to go. We left immediatly after as it will not stop someone who knows whats coming and prepares without the head shots and possible deaths and lost eyes. I have even hunted bear with it but thats for us pros :P and still very stupid. I also have solid balls for hunting small to med game. Solid shot at 600 fps will break exposed bones. Liability issues are another thing better to use a real gun and dont leave them in a condition to sue you. | ||
| guy johnson (Mcigeorge)
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I actually train instructors for Personal Protection classes. Some of the comments here are ancient and incorrect, and some of the comments are quite accurate. Remember this term: perceived imminent threat. Now to get back on the question. I know why I want to lock my vehicle, but I need some good ideas on HOW to lock my vehicle. I would actually appreciate answers to my question, not a rabbit trail.... and I ummmm think this is a bus page. Thank you Fast Fred and Bob for your responses! I don't want to have to drill holes and run bolts thru the handles... I would actually like to find some nice keyed locks, even if I have to change the handles. Where could I find this type of thing? Or is there anything out there like this? | ||
| John MC9 Rating: N/A |
Garage door lock assemblies may suit your needs. They can be keyed alike, and modified to fit nearly any compartment door. No, I haven't used them, but yes, I looked at one bus that had them on the engine and side access panels. I may use them for the same compartments. The bay doors on our MC9 use padlocks. Garage door locks | ||
| Larry D Baker (Lbaker4106)
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I have installed key locks on my bay doors and water input door on my 4106 with a cylinder type lock. all are the same key and were installed where my previous bolts for installing padlocks were. They are chrome and look very professional. I got them from Service Motors (Butch Williams) at P>O> Box 116, 8111 State road 16 East, Twelve Mile, Indiana 46988. Their phone number is 574-664-3313 and their email is servicemotors@clss.net. Locks work on all buses as Butch has a MCI. | ||
| FAST FRED Rating: N/A |
http://www.cbmind.com/Southco.htm This site has nice SS boat pri$ed hardware that might be OK to use as locking gear. FAST FRED | ||
| Johnny Rating: N/A |
I'm just going to use padlocks on all my bays. I found a key-lock entry door at a junkyard, so I'll use that. As for personal protection, I like my 12-gauge. | ||
| FAST FRED Rating: N/A |
As for personal protection, I like my 12-gauge. Remember the bird shot does less damage to other coaches . Rock salt used to be the prefered load for poacher removal. FAST FRED | ||
| Johnny Rating: N/A |
I prefer 00 buckshot, or slugs. I don't care how dusted the guy is...he'll drop like a rock. Dead men file no lawsuits. | ||
| FAST FRED Rating: N/A |
"Dead men file no lawsuits" But the guy in the Winnybuggy next site might be sorely peaved at the numerous holes in his rig! Birdshot is as lethal at interior distances as 00 or slugs , but may not break out thru the side of your coach as readily. Shoot low , window glass is hard to get on the road. Beware , shotguns make BIG NOISE inside a coach. FAST FRED | ||
| Marc Bourget Rating: N/A |
Deadmen don't file lawsuits, it's their survivors that do! An they usually ain't around while you're pulling the trigger! The old guy they haven't seen in years and angrily and profanely denounced at every opportunity now becomes the "light of their life" whom they cannot live or work without and now want you to assume the privilege of supporting them in the style they would like to become accustomed. Good Luck! | ||
| motorcoach1
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when i was putting in bays on Bluebirds in the 80's i used garage door locks and the handel type , the handel type is great you can take the handel out and it's real hard to open it just looks like a plug in the side |