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Cliff (Floridacracker)

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Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 7:40 pm:   

I am getting ready to shop for some beds.

So far I have only found two sources for the 30 X 75 bunk mattreses.

Anyone have a source they could share and opinions on memory foam types?

Thanks

Cliff
1975 4905A-1160
John MC9

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Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 7:52 pm:   

The standard high density foam used for couch cushions work
well for beds as well. Have the supplier cut it, or you can
cut it to any size you want, with an electric carving knife.

We did two rear Winnebago beds with it for around $40
each. 6" high density, medium weight. I think it was Latex,
but CRS right now..

Foam Rubber Dealers
Ed (Ednj)

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Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 8:04 pm:   

I got mine at RV surplus in Elkhart
They had them on the self , a couple different colors.
trina@rvsurplus.net
Pete/RTS Daytona (Pete_rtsdaytona)

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Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 8:41 pm:   

Cliff

Go to walmart - they have menory foam mattresses
queen size 60 x 80 x (i think 6") great stuff - great valve for the money

cut it yourself and Camping world has 34" x 75" mattress covers-->

http://www.campingworld.com/browse/skus/index.cfm?skunum=21140 should almost fit - little slope ??


I need 34" x 75" so I'll be getting two twins (54" x 80") ?? and cutting them up plus the camping world mattresses cover

you can get sheets at camping world also for 34 X 75

34 x 75 is standard RV BUnk size

Pete RTS Daytona
james dean boggs (Jd_boggs)

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Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 10:14 pm:   

I bought a set of bunk beds from a store called IKEA.
They are an European company. I'm verry happy with this bunk bet set.

TROMSÖ bunk bed

http://www.ikea.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10101&storeId=12&pr oductId=20699&langId=-1&parentCats=10103*10144
FAST FRED

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Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 6:08 am:   

There is a very large difference in the hardness of seat cushons and a real bed.

If the stuff is to convert the dinette into a bed , it will get rid of the inlaws rapidly !

For a bunk BED that does not serve as a day sttting spot , the BED STORE will usually be best chioce.
Sleeping on a slab of plywood , even with the be$t mattress is still damn FIRM !!!even in prison they do better.

Many stores have cot frames with springs that could be converted to bunk use.
The mattress will be far more comfortable , and the bed will be better as the mattress can breath , and evaporate the moisture we all produce.

FAST FRED
Cliff (Floridacracker)

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Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 7:56 am:   

Many great ideas.

These are for permanent bunk beds.

I like the idea of modifying a cot frame to hang for the bunk to provide a little back give and take and to allow it to breathe.

On that note, what are you all doing for your main bed? I was planning a queen over plywood, but Fred has me thinking about a box spring or some sort bed frame underneath.

I like a firm bed , but not a Hard bed.

Cliff
1975 4905A-1160
John MC9

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Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 9:16 am:   

3 more opinions:

A box spring is a waste of $$$ and just a cash-cow for the
mattress industry.

Foam made for use as bedding can be far superior to many
makes of mattress'. Foam suppliers provide a choice of
firmness and quality, and can explain the differences to you.

You would be better off using any standard size mattress, rather
than the "RV" type and sizes, since everything for the RV sizes
will cost more and be harder to find. (RV Queen size is shorter
than the conventional queen size; bunk sizes narrower and shorter)
Ian Giffin (Admin)

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Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 10:05 am:   

Hi Cliff,

Careful of "memory foam" mattresses. My wife and I just purchased a king size memory foam mattress that was as hard as a rock. We were able to return it, no problem.

When we went to shop for a replacement, we discovered in a quality mattress shop that there are several different types of memory foam, all with that unique spring-back quality. When we tested them all, we were surprised to discover that the firmest (similar to the one we had originally purchased) was also the most expensive and the softest was the least expensive.

We finally decided on a traditional (non-memory foam) "Euro Top Plush" mattress that we put on a firm foundation, similar to a solid piece of plywood, as in your case. The Euro-top is a little thicker than the regular quilt-top type; the plush version is softer than the "Firm" option in the same mattress.

Bottom line is, try a few and make sure you buy from a company offering a free exchange or refund after a reasonable "test drive" period.

Ian
www.busnut.com
Doug Dickinson (Dougd470)

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Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 11:05 am:   

I cannot sleep worth a hoot on a "foam on plywood" bed. It just doesn't work for me. What I HAVE found is something called a California Mattress which is just a thicker mattress that negates the need for a box spring. I used one when I replaced my waterbed with a mattress and it was comfortable. Sheets are a challenge due to the taller mattress (but still shorter than a box spring combination.

Worked for me!

I am intentionally staying away from "RV Size" beds as I am 5'11" and need the full length, and large enough around that the width is equally important. I don't like confined sleeping spaces - so my conversion will have full size bedding.

My $0.02 worth

Doug
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Todd & Lisa Rowe (Tl_rowe)

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Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 11:27 am:   

We used 4" bedding foam from a store called Jysk, similar to Ikea. Cut them to the size we needed and then I just covered them with a removable Duvet cover so I can wash easily. My kids like to "camp" so they use sleeping bags even in the bus, aside from the fact that they're terrible about making a real bed anyways.

We went a full size queen mattress in the master. 5" foam, we discovered it was not enough. We're considering putting a 2" memory foam on top, just price shopping now. I agree that comfort is necessary in order to get the good night sleep you need when on the road.

Lisa
John MC9

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Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 3:17 pm:   

If anyone is thinking of going "foam", make sure it's high density 6" type.
(You can specify the firmness desired)
Brian Brown (Blue_velvet)

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Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 3:25 pm:   

Here's a page I made of what we did for bunks for our young kiddos. We had an existing tub/shower that was seldom used, so we pulled out the shower enclosure and built in bunks. We can still use the tub for bathing and storage.

http://www.brownland.org/bus/bunks/bunks.htm

Your needs might be different, but maybe you can use the pics and description for some ideas.

HTH,
bb
Gary Stadler (Boogiethecat)

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Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 9:48 pm:   

I used a plain old house style queen mattress, and for the "box spring" under it, I took a box spring apart and trashed everything but the top wood, and mounted that atop my 150 gallons worth of Ronthebusnut water tanks.

It works perfectly, is just the right height, a GREAT place to stash the water tanks, and is actually more comfy than any bed in our house!
Stephen Fessenden (Sffess)

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Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 12:45 am:   

I have seen box springs that are really springs, box springs that are 1 1/2" of foam over plywood, and boxsprings that are only plywood platforms. Our matress for the last 30 years is n 8" latex foam king over a plywood platform "boxspring" with less than an inch of very soft, very useless foam. It is still comfortable. The key is that it is LATEX foam not just urethane foam. It has many deep holes on the underside and is much heavier to lift than urethane foam. I have slept on a 4" latex foam matress with no boxspring in complete comfort. I cannot sleep well on most urethane foam matresses. Most foam matresses are urethane. Latex foam may cost over $1200. Years ago when I converted a VW bus, I cut up a used latex foam matress for the cushions. When you go to a hotel or on a cruise, you sleep on used matresses, so no problem there, but it is almost impossible to find a used Latex Foam matress nowadays.
FAST FRED

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Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 5:40 am:   

Our Way was to find a spring setup as used under older beds.
The std bed is 54 wide and mounted fore & aft it allows fine side isles on our 96 wide coach.
It takes up almost NO thickness so the storage under the bed is huge.


For folks stuck with plywood under beds or under dinette seats a marine product www.ventairusa.com

will allow enough air circulation to get rid of the moisture produced by sitting or sleeping.

FAST FRED
Jim Stewart (H3jim)

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Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 10:42 am:   

Several months ago, Consumer reports did a test on beds, comfort level, prices, types etc. There is no best answer, no best bed, and spending more does not guarantee you a good nights sleep. Its all about personal preference and what works for each individual. They recommended just trying them out to find your own formula for comfort.

I personally find that 8" of foam on plywood is extremely comfortable, and the mattress was only $100. Been sleeping on foam for years.

In the San Diego area, UFO (United Foam Outlet) is the place to go for Nimbus bed foam. 619-477-9341. I think they ship, but I would guess that a mattress is not practical to ship.
Cliff (Floridacracker)

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Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 4:03 pm:   

Brian,

Thanks for the pictures.

How wide are your bunks?

Could an adult sleep on them?

I am thinking about 28x75....

Thanks

Cliff
Brian Brown (Blue_velvet)

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Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 4:24 pm:   

Cliff, our bunks are kiddie-sized... only 52" long, because that's how long the tub was. They are 28" wide, though.

I can get into them no problem, just a bit in the fetal position, but it's not too bad for just reading, sitting up, etc. Wouldn't want to sleep in 'em, tho, because of the length.

28x75 is a great size for an older kids' bunk, I think.

BTW, the Knox Foam people we got the mattresses and covers from ship for free... and the foam is quite comfortable.

HTH,
bb
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Posted on Friday, October 07, 2005 - 10:03 pm:   

Make each foam mattress with two foam densities. The bottom 4-7" of very firm and the top 2-3" with medium firm. This gives firm support on plywood with no need for springs of any kind and a soft sleeping surface for the body to conform. I did this years ago on two bunk beds and my father-in-law, a very hard guy to please, said it was the most comfortable bed he ever slept on!

Cover the two foam sections with whatever type of cover pleases you, plastic or fabric. Many types are available.

The comments about box springs and other foundations are absolutely correct, they are a waste of money.
Cliff (Floridacracker)

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Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 7:15 am:   

Hi All,

Update....

I bought two 30 X 75 4" grade "A" medium foam mattress with a 2" memory foam topper from Knox Foam. They were custom cut by them.

Slept on the living room floor on one of them with hardwood underneath. Great! My wife tried the next night and she liked it as well. We normally like a firm mattress and she was initially unsure about the memory foams softness, but loves it after a nights sleep.

It ran us around $250 each with a custom made cover/including shipping. Standard sizes run about 20% less.

Cliff
1975 4905A-1160
Cliff (Floridacracker)

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Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 7:18 am:   

Hi All,

Update....

I bought two 30 X 75 4" grade "A" medium foam mattress with a 2" memory foam topper from Knox Foam. They were custom cut by them.

Slept on the living room floor on one of them with hardwood underneath. Great! My wife tried the next night and she liked it as well. We normally like a firm mattress and she was initially unsure about the memory foams softness, but loves it after a nights sleep.

It ran us around $250 each with a custom made cover/including shipping. Standard sizes run about 20% less.

I am planning on ordering a queen for us this week.

Cliff
1975 4905A-1160
RC.Bishop

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Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 8:24 pm:   

Cost for the queen??
Thanx.
RCB
Cliff (Floridacracker)

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Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 8:42 pm:   

RCB

I am ordering a 6" grade "A" medium base foam mattress with a "3" memory foam topper w/cover, $575.00 delivered. They also sell a cover for $59.00 that is allergy and water proof. Shipping is built into all there prices.

Cliff
R.C.Bishop

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Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 10:14 pm:   

Thanx, Cliff/....good sleepin'!

RCB

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