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bruce knee (Bruceknee)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 9:28 pm: | |
used in the truck/ trailer world. They make a skin that is .125 thick up to 100" wide by 700' long. Should be able to skin with no seams. Anyone used it? |
Earl-8-Ky
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What kind of material is it? |
marty
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I used KEMLITE FILON two pieces 35 ft long. drip rail to belt line one piece no rivets My cell phone is 404 376 6169 call me and I'll go into detail Marty |
Ian Giffin (Admin)
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Marty,
Please feel free to go into detail here!
Ian
www.busnut.com |
Ed Jewett (Kristinsgrandpa)
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Ian, maybe there is a lot of cussing involved with the installation.
Ed |
Ron Walker (Prevost82)
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Hi Bruce ...I used KEMLITE FILON on my coach (click on my name to see) It worked out pretty good. Used one pc for each side.
Ron |
John MC9
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Earl-8-Ky -
Kemlite Filon
Kind of a thin FRP type. A tiny tree twig punctured clear through
our Winnebago's side panel without much problem. Gluing it over
sheet metal (as on the bus) would make for much more secure siding.
A friend in the RV repair biz was gluing that on the side of a real
nice motorhome, when the wind pulled it from the hands of his
helper. It took him two days to get the damned panel off the
side, and more time to get the glue off.. Plus the cost and delays
getting another roll of that stuff... It's not all that easy to work
with such a big section, especially when it folds and bends as
you try to manipulate it.
Looks fantastic when done, tho! (Like Ron's bus!)
(wish I was that talented, Ron) |
TomNPat
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 1:24 am: | |
The rv surplus place in Chico, CA used to have some filon, 8' wide and on a roll. I was quoted $7 per lineal foot, but they were out when I wanted to re-side the truck.
Where can you get it?
TomNPat |
Ron Walker (Prevost82)
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Thanks John...just finishing up on the interior, should have it completed in a couple of weeks. I will try and get some picture posted. Still have the drivers area and stairs to finish next year.
We head out for mexico in Dec.
Ron |
Billglenn4
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 10:41 pm: | |
Hey Bruce, I used the Kemlite Filon "medalion" with a thickness of .065 They also make more basic grades that you can see the fiberglass grain in the panels, RVF .045, .050, .060, .070, .075, and .080. I have a contact that was very helpfull somewhere in my files, paid by cashiers check or MO. no C.C., and got what I ordered.
I was looking for a thicker piece,(wouldn't show the gluelines and double sided tape?)but Decided on the medalion do to the high gloss gelcoat finish. this material is rollable and the shipping costs are less than a custom flat sheet. I would try the .080 if I was going to paint it.
My understanding is They can go up to 110" but feel comfotable at 104". Cheaper per sq' at wider widths, they split the sheet in half for me and shipping was less money.
Let me share my experiences.
Instalation is fun!?!?!?!!!
We made a jig that holds the sheet of FRP flat alongside the bus,(cheap 3/4" emt tubing welded together) this is hinged at the bottom of where the FRP bottom edge ends up when in place on the side of the bus. We welded a lip on the bottom to hold the FRP. With The jig Held out horizontaly (flat, 90degrees to the bus side) we unrolled the FRP, let it aclimate for a while before we started heating it. Flopped it up against the bus and back down 2-3 times till we were sure of repeatable results. We cut the sheet to fit with electric shears and tin snips.
We heated the panel with infrared and torpedo heaters. DO THIS in the sun on one of the hottest days of summer (streched, as we have learned here) so as to avoid wrinkles, or puckers in hot weather. We Flopped (lifted, folded at the hinge, and brought up into place on the side of the bus) that panel a couple of more times till we were sure of the fit. We decided to use double sided tape to hold the panel in place, and provide temporary bond till the SIKA, or 3m 5200 could dry. If done right the FRP will shread before you can remove the panel from what you glue it to once it is dry.
Sticks and staples glue the FRP directly to 1/4" plywood or other, This provides a flat base that looks good.
Now anyone who has ever painted a car can attest that proper preperation is critical to a fine refinish job. I missed a couple of rivets that stuck up past the thickness of the double sided tape and they show through. We put a strip of the tape at all edges and down the center of the panel lengthwise then flopped again just to check before squirting out the sika alongside the tape, removing the liner on the double sided tape and flopping the panel in its final position. The material easily spans the window openings without much support. No seams on a standard (what is that)bus installation, but that is what we used to shape the front of the bus also and we do have some seams where the sides meet the front.
Hopefully Marty and Ron can share their experiences with us also. I am sure that Ian and the rest of the nuts would be appreciative and it could save Ed or some other BusNut alot of cussing.
Good luck with your choices.
Hope to see you in Florida if not before.
Bill Glenn
Pulled the file, 3 years old, 52" x 35' $1.75 per sq ft $ 265.42 each side. $67.00 shipping for 2pieces
Bought through Distributor named Fabwell @ 2341 East market St. Nappanee In 46550
1-219-773-7981 Tina
To anyone who may read this, Please do not abuse this contact and mess it up for the rest of us as they generaly sell only to large experienced accounts. |
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