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pat young
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 12:58 pm: | |
Howdy folks
I have a starter for an 1145 CAT. Besides making a winch out of it, I'm not sure if I should keep it or recycle it. Buuuuuuut then I wondered, will this thing start my bus that has an 1160 CAT?
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(Also off topic for a second, but if anyone knew the basics of making a winch out of a starter, would you share it with the rest of us? I've had my buses get stuck on wet grass, mud sinkholes etc. and more going south of the border. I'd permanently mount it on the front of my schoolie, but other BUSNUTs with nicer buses could also build one, and build some hidden brackets so it wouldn't ugly up the front of the bus)
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Everybody knows the 1160 and 3208 share a lot of parts, but not all, but I really don't know much about 1150 or 1145, except that they are all V-8s, and all look sorta the same.
Does anybody know what an 1150 shares with an 1160? It is my knowledge so far that the 1145 is smaller, about 500 cubes vs. the 1160 or 3208's 636 cubic inches.
But is the intermediate 1150 an oversized 1145 or an undersized 1160? Or is an 1150 an 1160 with a lesser power injector pump?
And one more question: if you know what a "siguenal" is you get 75 bonus points and a coupon for 10 gallons of hemp based biodiesel
from the Humboldt City Council. Clue, it's got a tilde over the "n" (the word not the fuel)
Pat Young
US Army 1974-76
64C20/30
Fresno, CA
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David Hartley (Drdave)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 2:44 pm: | |
Translates to " SIGNAL "
As is sensor signal, level sensor, temperature sensor.
In context of course. |
Craig (Ceieio)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 1:21 am: | |
I have seen winches made out of automotive starters. They were not too powerful. The starter spins rather fast and the torque multiplication comes from the gear reduction of spinning lots of teeth on a flywheel.
All of the ones that I have seen had a auto-tranny flex plate for a gear on the drum shaft. They suck power at a prodigious rate; picture holding your starter on for three minutes and you'll get the picture. Use a starter solenoid off of a mid to late 70's ford pick-up and you can rig a remote off of it pretty easily. As I recall, the "best" one I saw had a locking lever that allowed you to swing the motor away from the flex plate so you could free wheel the cable out.
A diesel starter should have more native power, but the power consumption will likely go up as well. It might do in a pinch, but I would be nervous about it pulling a stuck bus out of anything... If you can come up with a better gearing setup, you might do better that what I saw back in my high school days.
Craig - MC7 Oregon |
Earl-8-Ky
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 11:04 am: | |
Your Transmission will have a place for a power take off. You would be much better off to get yourself a winch from a bone yard and do it right. |
Kevin Black (Kblackav8or)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 9:59 pm: | |
Have you considered a hydraulic winch? They run off the power steering pump. You could run quick disconnects like on a tractor to make it useable from either end though the plumbing would be sort of a pain. I don't know if they have the capacity but there are chainsaw winches that might be capable. Just some random thoughts. I really stuck bus will require some serious equipment but if it merely is spinning on the surface without being sunk in anywhere, it might be the trick. I think the starter idea is probably more trouble then it is worth. |
pat young
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 12:17 am: | |
howdy Folks
Thanks for all the useful responses. I guess there is too much compexity converting a starter to a winch. As one of the posts stated, the power draw would be tremendous, and probably burn the motor eventually.
Now, can anybody answer the question about compatiblity or similarities and differences between the (antiquated) 1145, 1150 and the(GREAT, reliable Powerful) 1160 CAT, and the sorta pain the rear 3208 (no offense intended, but 1160s don't have fuel pumps lock up like ther modern older brother.) My 1160 has given me a lot of good service, plus an honest 8.8 mpg.
Thanks gents
pat Young |
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