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john (205.188.195.52)

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Posted on Friday, September 07, 2001 - 9:41 pm:   

I have a Norcold 3-way frig but when running on 12 volt the warnig beeper comes on and displays
no AC or low AC any and all info would be great
Thank s John
dougwoodin (207.69.113.189)

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Posted on Friday, September 07, 2001 - 10:04 pm:   

Hi John;
I had the same problem with mine, along with a bunch of other things wrong. I fixed mine by pulling it out of the hole and setting it out by the curb. Went to Sears and got a nice apt ref.that was bigger than my Norcold, that works on 110 volts, works all the time, and in any position. $139.00 on sale.How can you beat it??
Reguards,
Doug. Bunnell, Fl.
FAST FRED (63.215.226.210)

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Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2001 - 5:27 am:   

Well if he ever wants to camping and have cold food its very easy to beat.

Some folks install the Dunasour board .

The 3 way fridges with the 12V was a stoopid idea to get you down the road with out using any gas.

AS you dont have a gasoline RV and dont have to fuel every 3 or 4 hours , why not just live with it , if it does work on 120V and propane.

Unless I can find Dougs working Norcold , sitting by the side of the road ,

our next unit will be the Servelle , that works on gas , no 120V and cretainly no 12V or circuit boards.

FAST FRED
Dan (207.144.106.208)

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Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2001 - 12:44 pm:   

This brings another question to mind. Can the LP gas on a 3-way frige be safely used while going down the road?
dougthebonifiedbusnut (24.147.153.205)

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Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2001 - 5:58 pm:   

sorry fred but id like to hear from anyone with a dometic refer that has not had a problem in my opinion they are typical
american made junk buti do agree that the one way gas refer is the way to go
dougthebonifiedbusnut (24.147.153.205)

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Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2001 - 6:16 pm:   

oops i meant to say norcold or dometic everything else stays the same
FAST FRED (63.215.231.111)

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Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2001 - 5:48 am:   

Most early fridges only has 120V or gas , and were used with great sucess going down the road.

Problem was the tort lawyers.

Folks were instructed to shut off the pilot light when fueling at gas station , and most didn't.

Never heard of an explosion or fire from this , but it could happen.

First "cure" after they installed the damn circuit boards was an ignition lock/ timer that would not let the gas go on for 20 min or so .
When you turned off the ignition , the gas would be shut off,{thinking you could be at a gas station}.

Later disasters were the boards that could put 12V to the unit when the RV was running.
These took MANY amps , for a car alternator , so some folks had dead batterty hassles after a night drive.


GAS ONLY makes the most sense, although many folks feel that if the .25c circuit board {their cost}is replaced with the much more robust Dynasoar board the problems , even the dirty contact low voltage hassels leave.

FAST FRED
Scott Whitney (63.151.68.130)

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Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2001 - 1:59 pm:   

I must be lucky then. My RV came with a three-way that will be used in my bus conversion. But it is w/o circuit board, as far as I know. I never use the 12v setting, anyway. I just have to remember to shut off propane before refueling, and remember to turn it back on after leaving the station. But it is the same with the H20 heater too. . . Funny, there are circuit boards in virtually every device in our life these days that perform flawlessly year after year, but yet these fridge boards seem to give everyone so much headache and cost a fortune. . . Conspiracy, I say, conspiracy.

Scott

P.S. I do like the option of switching to 110v when I have that luxury. . .
Jim Stacy (12.87.110.12)

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Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2001 - 10:37 pm:   

I guess I'm one of those jerks that travels with propane appliances running. My newest Dometic (NDR10) has managed to cook a thermocouple, but that's a 10 minute change (and covered by warranty). I've had more board problems with Suburban furnaces than with refers but I have installed a few Dinosaur boards in friends' refers.

I sure do like that auto changeover with no pilot light to mess with. Hook up ac and it switches to electric; ac goes away, it switches to propane. It's great. (I do carry a spare board - fits furnace too).

Jim Stacy
Earl-8-Ky (209.250.53.211)

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Posted on Monday, September 10, 2001 - 10:55 am:   

I go for the 110 volt fridge. It is the best way to go. I put in a 1500w. inverter and 4 12 volt deep cycle batts. I use a battery charge module going down the road. This takes 10 amps max from my coach batts. while on the road Plenty to keep up the house batts as the fridge only pulls 1.6 amps. The 4 house batts. will last a couple of days while dry camped. Then I run my gen to recharge. Works good for me.and not a lot of money to install. The fridge is a 10 c.f.
FAST FRED (63.215.232.204)

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Posted on Monday, September 10, 2001 - 3:07 pm:   

IF the fridge pulls 1.6 A on 120v,

you will draw about 20A of 12V while on the inverter.

If the fridge only runs 50% duty cycle { 12 hours out of any 24 hours} you will draw 12 X 20 amps per day. About 240A

AS its best to only plan on 1/3 of the battery 20 hour "rating" as the amount you can use before recharge.

{never want to go below 50% full ,
and the last 10% takes forever to get back in , and the mfg rating is not realistic after the first couple of discharges,,
33%,is close to what you can really use}

So those 4 house batterys are going to need to be over 600A EACH {at 20 hour rate}.

I would guess they will be pretty heavy!!

A good rule of thumb is a pound an amp.

And expensive!!!

Even with a dreamy 20% duty cycle the 4 days endurance , it will be very expensive to purchase and monitor and maintain the batt set

FAST FRED
Gary Carter (129.37.70.162)

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Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2001 - 1:46 pm:   

We have a two way Norcold that operates flawlessly. Runs on propane when a/c not available which means when on the road.

Have had Motor homes since 1978 and have never had a refigerator problem except for one 3 way dometic. Finally pulled the 12volt power line and made it a two way and then all was fine.

Would never consider a 110 vac house refer as we dry camp to much and by the time you invest in everything to keep it cold you will have as much invested as in a new Norcold.

We did just put in a 12/24 volt freezer in the bay. This uses 4 amps at 12vdc with with an average 40% duty cycle. This means about 50 amp hours per day or about 8 days on an 8D battery.
Tom Caffrey (Pvcces) (12.146.32.12)

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Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2001 - 10:43 pm:   

Gary, If you want to keep an 8D healthy, it should not be discharged below about 75% of full charge. Since they run about 200 amp hours, that means that you should not take more than about 50 amp hours from it before recharging, less if possible.

I am curious about the freezer that you mentioned that you just installed. Could you let us know what make, model and cost it is?

Thanks. Tom Caffrey PD4106-2576
CoryDaneRTSII-NE_IL (198.29.191.148)

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Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 4:14 pm:   

My 3way Norcold refer works exactly as norcold says it would. It is great for 110vac and runs good on 12v dc. the propane kicks on when the gas is turned on and the 110vac kicks in when the gas is turned off. It keeps ice cream just as a freezer should. I like it very much but do consider myself lucky when reading about all these folks that have had the brain card problems. Sorry but I like my 3 way a lot and it is good looking to. Am considering to put one in the Bus too since I have had such good luck with it. I hope everyone can have such good luck with these nice units. When all works well, they are very convenient.-cd
Mike Eades (Mike4905) (12.77.144.119)

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Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 11:17 am:   

My wife came home with a large house refrig. wiht icew maker and I haven't got a way to put it in my 4905 without a raised roof. Now I have to return it and figure out out how to put a large refrigator in. Any advice? Please help. Mike4905
Scott Whitney (63.151.69.220)

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Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 3:35 pm:   

Advice? Get a new wife instead.

Sorry, couldn't resist. . .

: ^ )
Scott

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