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truthhunter@shaw.ca

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Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 11:09 pm:   

Well it looks like our relentless effort of improvisation have finaly done it. That is catalized the begining of serious Stick & Staple design- and I do mean nothing more than the the begining (I do not want to give more than a light pat on the back to the Stick & Staple industry). The first full slide design is on the market at http://www.fleetwoodrv.com/brandtomodel/floorplan.aspx?brand=excursion&m=39V
(disclaimer, I in know way intend to endorse this product, just want to highlight the 30+ feet of SLIDE OUT ROOM) Now take this a little farther down the road and incorparate two of these monster slides on a one of those new "Spartan III" bird cage chassis and you might have something. Not a motorcoach conversion mind you, but a good industry standard that I wouldn't mind stompin through at the RV dealer lot; with my muddy boots on ,for a peek. NOW if this dosn't inspire some Coach Conversion Engeener to defect to our cause with some SLIDE-OUT conversion blueprints (come-forth ye discrunteled ex-Walker coach employees).Well OK so I still beleive in that Santa Claus will visit me some day yet,maybe.
John MC9

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Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 11:35 pm:   

A 30' slideout!

30' of leaky headaches.

Yeah, get me one, Santa... So I can sell it and finish my bus.
t gojenola

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Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 1:02 am:   

Let me know when one of these comes up the Alcan - I'd like to be positioned somewhere north of Haines Junction with a video camera to document its self-destruction.

On my trip down that way in July I spoke with 4 people having trouble with smaller and simpler slide-outs. One that wouldn't close, two that wouldn't open, and one that refused to stay closed while going down the road. All 4 of them complained about mud, water or gravel fowling the mechanism, and getting in the coach. Most of them were 5th wheel rigs.

At Watson Lake the big RV repair shop had a lineup of rigs waiting for hitch-welding and slide-out fixes. This was where a gentleman from Arizona said he had been over the Alcan numerous times, but this was his last with a slide-out.

tg
Anchorage AK 4106-1888
JimG

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Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 2:02 am:   

Maybe they will be limited to SMOOTH ROADS!!!!!!!
I like the idea of it being a free door prize that I could sell to finish my REAL coach.
Jim G. - 1979 RTS-II
DebDav (Debdav)

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Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 5:31 pm:   

And they still can not design a human size bed.
truthhunter@shaw.ca

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Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 11:49 pm:   

OK so when Old Satan Claus finaly makes good on my Christamas wish list for my MC 8, Well I know you 4 bus convertors don't want a copy of those slideout blueprints,I'll pass on the message in my next "letter of demand" to that old fart in the red suit; but have any of you asked your bus what it really wants for Xmas.
Some bus nuts, really, it is always about what they want, never ever taking into consideration what the bus may or may not want.
Seriously has anyone had a up close look at that new bird cage chassi (the K 3 )that spartan has just put on the market, I might be intrested to hear/see which stick & staples manufacture takes the gamble first and incorpirates it into one of there McSpensive crates. Just to try and keep up staus qou with us.
John MC9

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Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 12:58 am:   

My bus said:

Get me anything you want, to make me well! But please,
don't cut me open and let my sides hang out. And don't let
them cut my head open and raise my skull more than what
I was made to be. Let my feet rest on the ground and let my
head stay on the way it was put on, and let me rest, in my
final days of life.

Naww.... Screw her! Let's raise the roof, punch out the
sides and run the hell out of her with a transplanted engine.
She can't die! We won't let her rest! It's the Terry Schiavo
of buses.

Yeah..... Gotta' do it!

(but not to my poor baby)
David Hartley (Drdave)

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Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 7:09 am:   

Adapt...Adapt...Adapt...:-)

Here's a few thoughts,

Definitions;

O.C.D. (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder), A tendancy to go overboard on things.(ie:See reference to bus conversion owner "B.C.O.")

Bi-Polar Disorder: Inability to decide whether to put in a bigger engine or raise the roof.(see O.C.D)

B.C.O. (Bus conversion owner) One who just can't leave well enough alone, One who tends to reorganize endlessly, A person or group of people that must remove, replace, rebuild, repair, invent or otherwise tamper with things. (see: O.C.D.)(see: Bi-polar Disorder).
truthhunter@shaw.ca

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Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 11:10 am:   

gee wizz DR.D you may have just invented a whole new line for the physciatry racket; now that is improvisational creating, a modern day belief system, reinventing itself right before our eyes (in DR.D head) Now just take that same creative juice and apply it to things tangable like coach conversion (not persuodo science/ like make beleive traditional clinical physciatry)and you will overcome all those lables those greedy men in white coats put on you over the years.
John you are a lucky boy to have such a passive bus fall in love with you. And too all a good night! Ho Ho Ho!
truthhunter@shaw.ca

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Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 11:26 am:   

and something a hopefully a little more relevant to the original posting, in line with my feeble quirey for relevant input. http://www.spartanchassis.com/mh/k3.asp is the new K 3 bird cage chassi I was trying to soliciet mechanical opionion on, if anyone has had a close up look. Not that I don't enjoy a lot of sardonic humor boyz, but it should also contain something worth reading, information wise ya know, the tv is a more effective medium to waists precious time entertaining on. Sorry no spell check on this new/old computer I am interfacing with!
truthhunter@shaw.ca

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Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 11:34 am:   

and something a hopefully a little more relevant to the original posting, in line with my feeble quirey for relevant input. http://www.spartanchassis.com/mh/k3.asp is the new K 3 bird cage chassi I was trying to soliciet mechanical opionion on, if anyone has had a close up look. Not that I don't enjoy a lot of sardonic humor boyz, but it should also contain something worth reading, information wise ya know, the tv is a more effective medium to waists precious time entertaining on. Sorry no spell check on this new/old computer I am interfacing with!
Richard Bowyer (Drivingmisslazy)

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Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 12:24 pm:   

Go here to get a great spellcheck and pop-up blocker. I use the spell check on every message I send, if I don't forget.

http://toolbar.google.com/

Richard
RJ Long (Rjlong)

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Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 12:33 pm:   

Truthhunter -

The chassis might be fine - looks a lot like what Gillig puts underneath their Phantom transit bus.

The real question is whether or not the stick 'n staple folk will build a real birdcage frame for the box that sits on top of this Spartan, and how they'll tie the two together.

HTH,

RJ
PD4106-2784
Fresno CA
David Hartley (Drdave)

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Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 6:18 pm:   

Oh. wow, either I got razzed or insulted.

Truthhunter,

I am on my 7th Real Bus, How about you?

Tangable is what you make of it.

If you build a cage on top of a motorhome or truck chassis you still have a motorhome or truck chassis. If it's built from the ground up as a bus it will always last longer than any frame-rail and cage construct.

Spartan has a nice design and new things are always being done but the value to us real bus owners is nil as we do things our own way.

Why not ask an Eagle owner what they think? bet you would have to duck and run for cover!:-)
truthhunter@shaw.ca

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Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 3:55 pm:   

Dear DrDave, neither, I do try my best to restrain from such antagonistic efforts as they are hardly conducive to technical discussions. It just seem like you were crying out for help of some sort, in your first posting reply to our little topic. No I have not went threw 7 conversions since my first creation in 1979-ish. Not that I am suggesting my constructions techniques and effort were superior or comparable to the sweat you must of poured into building & wearing out each of your seven conversions. Again we need not compare whom has the bigger"""; may we chose to leave the comparative practices for the manufactures and remain dedicated to our common cause, "our way" as I believe Fast Fred might say.
Now that was a razzing "Anna/Daniel?"
David Hartley (Drdave)

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Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 6:02 pm:   

Never Mind,
My attempt at subtle humor apparently hit a stump..:-)
John MC9

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Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 7:52 am:   

Not to everyone, Dave!
truthhunter@shaw.ca

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Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 4:05 pm:   

What I got it Drdave,your humor was well worth reading & replying too; although it would appear my attempt at even dry humor was even lammer than your's ( but who's measuring), seems to have hit the roots perhaps and missed the stump.
Can anyone direct me to some of those little pictures (got the spell check working, thanks misslazzy's operator), perhaps some smiley faces would help illustrate my intent better? .
So "Keep on Busin" bro-es some ones got to keep encourage those poor lost souls in there stick & staples what to expect from those manufactures (more accommodations for us motorcoaches to park at,he he he)

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