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John Wardell

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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 7:07 pm:   

Harbor Freight
Central Hydraulics
20 Ton Air/Hydraulic Bottle Jack
Lot No. 41487
Minimum Height: 10-3/8"
Maximum Height: 20-1/4"
90 to 120 PSI

Does anyone have First Hand knowledge of the reliabilty of these jacks?

Thanks for you imput.

John
Luke Bonagura (Lukeatuscoach)

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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 7:20 pm:   

Hi John:

The topic of Jacks came up just a short while ago and I will give you the benefit of my experience, after 43 years of working in the motor coach industry.

When we are talking about Jacks, we are talking about Safety and Reliability.

After Buying Jacks from all over, including the vendor you mention, we continue to buy the Sears Heavy Duty, American Made Jacks.

They are far superior in longevity of service, than any other Jacks we have bought previously!!!! (And No, I do not own stock in Sears, and I do not sell jacks!!!)

One word of Caution, store whatever Jack you buy in the "upright" position!!!! If laid on their sides, oil will internally gravitate to the wrong side of the seals, which compromises the Safety of the Jack.

I Hope this HELPS!!!!!

Happy & SAFE!! Bussin to All.

LUKE at US COACH
sylverstone (Sylverstone_pd4501864)

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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 7:59 pm:   

john:

well, i have 6 of them holding up sections of my house... (doing a foundation) but if i had to jack up my bus i'd take lukes advice :-)
-dd
mikeEMC

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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 8:05 pm:   

I purchased a 12 ton air operated jack from Tractor supply it works well and do not leave it to support the vehicial. the reason for the air operated one is that i could place it and not be under the coach when lifting, I'm not that young any more lol. look to see if the ram head unscrews , i have different ram heads for different operations , you will find this handy in trying to jack in diffacult areas
Donald Lee Schwanke (Dontx)

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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 8:14 pm:   

Well, call me a cheapskate and Harbor Freight Freak, but heck, I was not going to crawl under the darned bus while jacked up, even if Mr Sears had HIS name on the jack.
I bought one of the Harbor Freight jacks early on, and it performed flawlessly for about 12 years, until I sold it. It worked perfectly, never let me down, was loaned out to several other bus nuts for their use, and then I carried it in the bay after conversion was complete, since it worked quite well off the bus air system..
Dale L. Waller (Happycampersrus)

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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 8:47 pm:   

The Harbor Freight jack will serve your purpose just fine. You won't use it enough at home to worry about longevity.

I probably wouldn't want to use it daily in a maintenance environment, but the occasional use would be fine.

Just remember to NEVER crawl under that HEAVY bus without blocking it up first. NEVER trust any jack I don't care who made it.

I have a Air/Hydralic tranny jack from Harbor Freight that has worked great for at least 6 years.

Dale
John MC9

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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 8:56 pm:   

Since Sears has been taken over by K-Mart, aren't near all
of their products made in China (just like Harbor Freight)?
Donald Lee Schwanke (Dontx)

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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 9:00 pm:   

I quickly looked at Sears site expecting to find exactly that John, but they seem to be secretive about where their jacks come from. Hmmmm, wonder why?
Jeff (Jeff)

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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 9:49 pm:   

I've used my 20 ton Harbor Freight jack several times. I never depend on a jack to hold up any vehicle. Along side, I place a Jack Stand. the air/hydraulic jack is to lift. The Jack Stand is to hold in place. I feel safer that way. May be over kill to some, it is to prevent Bubba kill.

Jeff
Paul Tillmann (Paultillmann)

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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 10:55 pm:   

I just checked the Sears website and if you zoom in on the picture of the Sears 20 ton jack for $69, it says "Made In China". A 20 ton hydraulic jack made in the U.S.A. probably would cost a whole lot more. I bought a 20 ton air/hydraulic jack from Northern Tool this past summer for around $500 (Made in Taiwan). The American counterpart (Lincoln) was, I believe, $1100. I use my jack maybe 5 times a year and it works just fine.

Paul
Donald Lee Schwanke (Dontx)

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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 11:28 pm:   

I knew it!!
John MC9

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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 11:32 pm:   

Almost everything I own comes from China! The trouble is,
an hour later, and I want another one at the same cheap price..
Paul Tillmann (Paultillmann)

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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 11:56 pm:   

Try

www.jackxchange.com

I think I saw a 20 ton air/hydraulic bottle jack for $79. I wonder where it's made??? They also have USA made 20 ton bottle jacks (no air) for, I think around $210.

Paul
Craig (Ceieio)

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Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 10:17 am:   

John - I have one of those jacks.

I have not jacked up my bus with it yet, but I did jack up a United Van Lines moving truck that got stuck turning around in the dirt. It was rather nice standing there waiting for the drive wheels to get high enough off the ground to put boards under it. Much better than pumping!

BTW, I used the inexpensive pancake compressor from HF to power it.

I bought these things to toss in the bus in case I was in an area where road service was not available or slow in response. I think it was a good test of the idea. I still need to find a lug nut wrench (air or cheater bar) to go along with this, but that's another post!

Craig - MC7 Oregon
Henry Boehm (Hank)

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Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 11:02 am:   

This place http://www.hyjacks.com/H21.HTM has nice jacks. Read his "BOTTLE/HAND JACK BACKGROUND/HISTORY PAGE" page for the skinny on bottle jack manufactures. A while ago I bought an 8 ton for my big van and was impressed with the quality. I'm just about to order a 20 ton for the bus. Owner was very helpful and enthusiastic on the subject of jacks.
Hank
CaSteve

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Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 12:05 pm:   

Hey Craig(ceieio), Since you are a HF shopper, check out the 1/2" drive "earthquake" impact wrench for your lugs on the bus. I bought one two years ago, came home and loosened three lugs, retightened them ,then torqued them. It worked and is a keeper just for that application. Merry christmas and safe travels to all. CaSteve
Craig (Ceieio)

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Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 7:43 pm:   

Thanks Steve - I'll give that one a look. I am not sure how many lb-ft of touque one needs to break free the lugs. Good to know that this one can do it. I suppose I'll hold off until after the 25th, tough to explain buying yourself stuff this time of year at my house!

Merry Christmas,
Craig - MC7 Oregon
Stephen Fessenden (Sffess)

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Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 8:49 pm:   

Be careful where you save your money on one of these. A an unnecessary 5o mile to buy one at a good price and it failed on the second use. Appeared to have bad seals, brand new, dry stored inside. Could have been resold as new and it just failed to lift with air or manual the second time it was put under a bus.

At least a HFT you can take back duds. I bought mine at a local tool store that tries to buy quality Chinese tools. Jacks that look exactly alike may come from different factories.

Be sure you can get your money back.

I agree that a reasonable priced air jack is safer than hand jacking. I had to Jack a bus out of the mud with one and I cerainly would not have wanted to be under the bus working a hand lever. It did slip once during the multiple jackings it took to get the tires back up to ground level.
Jack Gregg (Jackinkc)

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Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 12:49 pm:   

I just got a flyer from Harbor Freight; the 20-ton air/ hydraulic jack mentioned at the first of this thread is on sale for $69.99 at my retail store. The retail and internet divisions of Harbor Freight are separate operations.

Jack In KC
John MC9

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Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 1:07 pm:   

I posted this on the "removing wheels" thread:

Harbor Freight:
Item No. 41487-2VGA

Also via Internet, as far as I can tell. Their store is only
about 5min from me, in Melbourne, Fl... (lucky lucky lucky)
Doug Dickinson (Dougd470)

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Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 10:32 am:   

I have one of the Harbor Freight air/hyd jacks and use it a lot in a shop environment. It lifts the coach every time.

I also block the coach EVERY TIME I use a jack as I don't trust by gourd to anything called a Jack! If I was a commercial user, I might use a more expensive jack, but I am not and I don't.

Also - you will find that most "american made" items originated overseas these days. Honda and Toyota are often american manufactured, Chrysler (and others) often come from Mexico or Canada!

Go figure.

Doug
St Louis MC9
pat young

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Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 2:55 pm:   

Just got a Harbor Freight air hydraulic 20 ton for 79 bucks (!) on sale, normal retail is about 140. I use the Harbor Freight 12 ton jacks all the time. I’ve had one go bad, just got a return.
Their 2 and a quarter floor jacks are real good, I’ve used one for about six years, and they come with an extra “O” ring taped to the bottom of the lift.

The air hydraulic 20 ton I bought is great. Can't speak about longevity yet, but so far it beats the H E double L out of pumping a hundred or so times.

pat Young
Gillig with a CAT
Fresno, CA
Pat Bartlett (Muddog16)

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Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 8:51 am:   

I just received the same item from HF, after the last time we talked about jacks, I am very pleased with this jack. I was even thinking about getting one of those low profile air/hydralic jacks on wheels for around here in the shop. Does anyone have any information on how well those work! Pat

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