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H3-40

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Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 8:13 pm:   

Took the H3 out for a spin today and it really ran great! All fluids were perfect before and after and it drove smooth and swift, especially IN traffic near the mall and on the back roads leading back home.

Question...

Does anyone know of any device that would install in-line on the fresh water hose coming IN from an outside water source that would give an idea as to how many gallons were used? Using the onboard fresh water tanks, one can get an idea as to how many is used IF he knows the size of tank. That part is easy! By-passing the tank and using a park water line or as in my case, my home water line, you never get an idea as to how full your tank is. It's always a guessing game, so to speak IF your waste tank doesn't have some sort of gauge!

Thanks and FYI... there is no change in Carla's condition. They still have her in an induced coma!
Thanks for the cards, calls, and e-mails! That really helps!

Ace
David Hartley (Drdave)

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Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 8:49 pm:   

Uh.. Water Meter...

Have to do some searching but there are electronic meters with remote displays used in chemical processing. Probably pricey but that sounds more like what you are asking for.

A neat trick I saw was to install a couple of long stainless screws of equal length into the tank at a near full level mark. Then tie a 5 volt sonalert in series with the probes and small power source. When the water or (effluent) reaches the probes the sonalert starts beeping.

We used those for years on photo-chemical carbouys to alert the guys that the containers were full.

Here's one...

http://www.assuredautomation.com/water/index.htm
David Hartley (Drdave)

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Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 9:06 pm:   

Oooohh.. Looky Looky..

All the toys for the RV/Bus...( Meters * Monitors)

http://www.go-usg.com

Cool....
motorcoach1

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Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 9:35 pm:   

great i wanted to put a electric pedestal at the shop...thank you and the prices arn't bad from what i see
doug wotring

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Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 9:50 pm:   

easy, fill your tank off shore water......use tank water...when your out you know......refill
H3-40

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Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 11:12 pm:   

Thanks Dave for the info!

Doug, uh that seems real simple and it is but the water pressure is much better using water supplied from outside source over onboard tank. I know when the tank is empty I have used 80 gallons but bypassing the tank and using water from line is a guessing game. The link Dave posted has some really neat and cheap meters that I may try installing here at the house. HMM wonder if it could be made portable and used at campgrounds as well?

Thanks again...
Ace
Ed (Ednj)

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Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 7:19 am:   

Ace
Look at these they might be more portable.
battery operated.
http://www.greatplainsindustries.com/
METERING APPLICATIONS - water
Prather

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Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 10:34 am:   

Ace try this

Prather

https://www.surpluscenter.com/sort.asp?UID=2006030609231740&catname=&byKeyword=yes&search= water%20meter
H3-40

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Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 12:13 pm:   

Prather, I looked at that one and only problem I see is it measures in Cubic Meters and 1 CM equalls 264 gallons.

Thanks
Ace
t gojenola

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Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 4:16 pm:   

Ace - using a water-in meter to monitor the holding tank level is an unusual way to go about it, but I see no reason it won't work. I have gone through more than one of those low cost meters (and flow timers) in my greenhouse, and I can tell you they are not very accurate, don't last very long, and they will not stand a freeze-up.

I have the older accu-gage in my coach to monitor all three tanks and it works very well. But if you don't have plastic or PVC tanks, it won't work at all. Here's a link:

http://www.rvgauge.com/rv.htm

tg
H3-40

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Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 6:57 pm:   

tg thanks but I was the one that installed a metal tank (round) and the accugauge just won't work for me. Today I installed a home made gauge on my black tank and so far it appears to work very well! Simple sight hose mounted on the side going from top to bottom using two brass street elbows and barbed hose fittings. At least it will give me a better idea as to how close I am to being at the top!

Ace
Kyle Brandt (Kyle4501)

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Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 7:51 pm:   

Hey Ace, You gotta love the simple solutions!

What did you use for the sight hose?

thanks

kyle4501
Ed (Ednj)

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Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 8:42 pm:   

Ace
I thought maybe you wanted to get fancy and put in a flow meter with an auxiliary readout you can put in the bus.
They have a feature where can set the gallons and have an alarm or have it control a shutoff valve.
Tim Jones (Torquester)

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Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 8:50 pm:   

six bucks:

http://www.energyfederation.org/consumer/default.php/cPath/850_855

eighty bucks:

http://www.jerman.com/hosemeter.html

hth, tq
H3-40

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Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 9:01 pm:   

Tim I like the 6 buck deal. It's looks pretty simple!

Kyle I am using a temp hose of clear nylon just for testing purposes and then will switch to something like tygon hose!

Ace
FAST FRED

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 6:00 am:   

A simple but not too accurate solution is an engine hour meter , timed by the FW pump.

As most bus campers operate a single faucet the accuracy is not too bad.

If you operate the dishwasher , take a shower and do the laundry all at once , the accuracy will be off.

FAST FRED
Bruce Henderson (Oonrahnjay)

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 11:09 pm:   

__. Ace, do you ever intend to fill less than a full tank of fresh water? I don't think I intend to. My plan is to have two spigots next to each other -- one is the inlet to have the filler hose next to it; the other one is a vent attached to the top of the tank. Attach the filler hose to one and when water begins to pour out of the other one, it's full. No screwing around with meters, worrying about accuracy, paying extra $$, etc. Just a filter to keep dust, insects, etc. out of the vent.
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H3-40

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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 3:08 pm:   

Bruce maybe you understood what I WAS trying to do! My question had nothing to do with the fresh water TANK! My question dealt with having a hose connected from a water line, bypassing the fresh water tank. By doing this there wasn't an easy way for me to tell HOW MUCH fresh water was being used and how full the black tank was or wasn't! Of course when you completely fill your fresh water tank, you know how much is being used such as a 80 gallon tank is 80 gallons of fresh water used but when mixing that 80 gallons along with human waste, it tends to be more, at least in my case. (NO jokes from you others) Anyway when bypassing the fresh water tank and just having city water or campground water line connected, I had no idea as to how full my black water tank was getting until my vent started to leak on to the ground! P-U! Now with my simple hose gauge on the side of the tank (remember, metal tank that you can't see thru) I can see how far up the level is, either by using the fresh water supply onboard tank OR the fresh water direct connection!

So far it seems to work very well!

Ace
Richard Bowyer (Drivingmisslazy)

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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 4:02 pm:   

Ace, it seems to me that each time you flush the toilet it would be an easy task to peer into it to determine the content level. At least that is the way I could tell on mine. Of course if the black water tank is not directly below the toilet, then that idea is out the window. LOL
Richard
H3-40

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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 4:14 pm:   

No Richard, my toilet drops down and makes a 90 degree sweep forward and then into the tank. I don't think I would wat to look that deep into it anyway!! :-)

Ace
motorcoach1

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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 7:35 pm:   

gezz i love the bus nuts we went from metering fresh folw water , City to tank - then to the toilet ,,it just gets better lol....I like hartlys deal
David Hartley (Drdave)

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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 9:26 pm:   

And have the probes hooked to a relay to turn on the macerator pump to drain the tanks too!!


Uh..Oh...Howd that get in there???

My cats used to stuff the plastic rings from milk jugs under the toilet seat and I would find them a couple of months later jammimg up the macerator cutting blades. I really hate taking them apart to clean and repair....Yuck!:-)

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