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Bob Baldwin (Bob4106)

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Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 9:54 pm:   

Any one know Frank A Walker Jr. from Bear Creek Township, PA He owns a 4106
Any info would be nice
Thanks
KC Jack

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Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 11:34 pm:   

Search Sam Walker in the archives. Sam is a convicted felon.
Nick Badame Refrigeration Co. (Dnick85)

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Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 11:40 pm:   

Bob,

Found him and his bus with a google search
http://www.classyrv.com/viewlisting.php?listing_id=40354

Good Luck
Nick-
John MC9

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Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 11:48 pm:   

Sam Walker has not been convicted of anything.






(yet)
Bob Baldwin (Bob4106)

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Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 3:53 am:   

yes Nick thats him, NOT SAM
thats what i'm looking at his 4106 forsale.
I'm looking to see if any one knows him or the bus? His son has it and knows the convertion very well, but as a bus guy he does not have alot about it mechanically because his dad did all that.
JW Smythe (Jwsmythe)

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Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 5:01 am:   

I'm bored, and good at this game. Lets see who Frank is. This is all with public internet searches.

Frank Hank Walker
571 West Ave
Bear Creek Township, PA 18702-8206
(570) 472-9469

Some sources change the city name to Wilkes-Barre.

Google Maps doesn't have a reasonable resolution image available.

terraserver.microsoft.com does have a good black&white image available from 4/14/1999, which appears to have a bus parked across the street.

As already mentioned:

http://www.classyrv.com/viewlisting.php?listing_id=40354

The phone number reverses to both "Sara H" and "Frank Hank" Walker, both of the same address.

I would guess it was Frank's father who ran the Irving Theatre in Wilkes-Barre, PA, which closed in the 1950's.

http://cinematreasures.org/theater/14457/

Sara A Walker is 65. Frank is probably 66, but I'm not positive.

Possible family members are:

WALKER, SCOTT F (age 34)
WALKER, FRANK A (age 66)
WALKER, HANK
WALKER, F
WALKER, JR FRANK A
WALKER, FRANK H
WALKER, BRIAN F (age 46)
WALKER, JEFFREY F DMD (age 41)
WALKER, HANK
JW Smythe (Jwsmythe)

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Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 5:23 am:   

Oops, found one more reference. Google found this listing for the phone number. He may have been a previous number owner.

Donald R Holdredge Jr - (570) 472-9469 - 1091 Country Club Dr, Wilkes Barre, PA 18701
John MC9

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Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 8:31 am:   

Any relation to the "Phantom" (Chris Walker - "The Ghost Who Walks")?

phantom
truthhunter@shaw.ca

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Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 9:09 am:   

So now can anyone explain the myth behind internet security/anonymity illusions in this world wide net? At least it is accessible to all, so the playing field is leveled out!
Do tell us all JWS; what geek magic did you employ during that halfish hour search to legally obtain all that information on the above mentioned. Seems like a good avenue of disinformation may be lurking in the silver lining or at the least a way to get real information along with the "this is what you must buy" crap that dominates my searches for meaningful technical information!
JW Smythe (Jwsmythe)

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Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 11:34 am:   

Zzzz.. {snort} YAWN. Huh? Sorry, just woke up.

Google.

I took the information available, and did a little hunting. I had a name, and a city.

Go to Google, and search "People Finder", "reverse phonebook", and "whitepages". Most of them offer a free search, and then a paid search for more information. Run the known information through a few free searches, and you should see common information popping up. Doing this, I got his name, address, and phone number. Don't depend on the results from one resource, each may have it's own errors. If 2 of 3 show the same result, you can be fairly confident that the information is correct.

I lucked out in that he was in a low population area. Finding unique names somewhere like New York City or Los Angeles is much more difficult.

Run the short name (first and last name only) and city through a whitepages search. Whitepages searches are insanely abundant, since the whitepages are public.

Run the known information through Google again. I got the supplied link with the bus for sale again that way. This confirmed that I was looking for the right person.

Now, take the information you found, and start over. Put the phone number into google, formatted like "### ### ####" (with the quotes). This is also useful for finding telemarketers. I validate most unknown callers who don't leave voicemails this way.

I know I had the right person, because the phone number I found matched the phone number is his bus ad listing.

Run the address through maps.google.com and terraserver.microsoft.com . They're both free mapping sites, and fairly accurate. If you have a target that should be seen from aerial or satellite photography (like, a bus), you'll have again verified the target is correct. Google's images are at least 3 years old, and TerraServer even more. The photo that I validated the address from was 7 years old. Luckly, it's probably rare that someone would have a long bus or RV parked in their driveway, or across the street in this case.

I found his wife's name in some of the first searches. Some of the resources (namely intelius) give ages, which are intended to help you verify that you have found the right person. I was once looking for an old friend in Boston. There are multiple records, because she aparently moved around while in college. Her age showed correctly on several records, but there were records with her same name, 20 years older. That told me there's a second person in town with the same name.

To find our target's age, I had to do all the searching again in reverse. I searched for his wife, who brough up the target as a possible relative at the same address, with age listed.

Once you have all the information, search it all again, with any additional information that you've found. In our case, I found that the city listed is a community name, so there was another perfectly possible city name they could be found under. Use every variation of the available, and you'll likely find more information.

Younger people tend to have done more things on the Internet, so you may find usenet postings (groups.google.com is useful here), message board postings, etc, etc. Ya, ya, I know the demographic here is a bit different.

I did find more information on our target, including geneology on the family. If I was really interested, I would have gone farther into it. Geneology is a great thing, and I could have very likely found out more information on our target. Grandfather target could have very likely had more children who live in the area, therefor uncles, aunts, and cousins who quite likely still live in the area and have common connections.

All it takes is a little bit of information to find out a good bit of information.

[more about you sent via email]
David Hartley (Drdave)

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Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 1:41 pm:   

Many public records are now searched by google and others on a regular basis. Everything from Real Estate info to legal records right down to your genetic :-) codes if you want to go that far and have the right money to play with.

The government has some information, history or lab results and even samples of just about everyone born in this country somewhere in some archive. If you were born there's a record, If you die there's a record, and in all that are connecting records of your family history.

Too much information too little intelligence in charge of it.
truthhunter@shaw.ca

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Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 2:32 pm:   

And the age of "accountability for all" { not meaning to up stage those poor folks stuck in make believe reality with their "age of Aquarius" or any such thing }. Kind of makes me feel warm and equal inside and out now that the shock & denile staage has passed !
JW Smythe (Jwsmythe)

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Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 11:16 pm:   

David,

You're so right.

Birth, death, and marriage records are public record.

Phonebook listings are public, if you don't pay the extra money to have them not published, which gives your phone number and address.

Myself, I have more records that you can't find, but the government has. I know of at least 5 times that I was fingerprinted, and those fingerprints were sent off to the FBI. They were all legitimate background checks, but you know perfectly well they weren't checked and thrown away. I also have at least one record at the CIA, and one at Interpol. Local law enforcement in two places have my photograph, fingerprints, and files on me. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they did have DNA information on file. I've given blood several times over the years.

Then there are records that are suppose to be more private, such as your credit report. That damned credit report is evil. Not only is it abused, but it shows not only where you may have lived, but every freakin' line of credit that you've had or applied for.

If you had a source with the credit card companies, you could pull a report of everywhere you shop, how much you spend, etc, etc. That could then be used to go to the vendors and pull an accounting of exactly what you buy.

DMV records show what vehicles you own, your driving habits, and places you've gone if you've even been pulled over or your tag was randomly run. Yes, the police will run tags on cars in traffic and parked cars, just to see if there are any problems with the car or driver.

The whole concept of the "TIA" was to bring all that information together. One centralized resource to tell them everything about you.

Use me for an example. They know what my bus is (obviously), what my other owned vehicle is (probably the one in the trailer), places my tag has been run. They also know that I have a concealed weapons permit, and have bought a few weapons over the years. ya, now we're looking at trouble. I've been to Mexico for no "legitimate" reason, other than to go get drunk. My passport or drivers license was recorded that I did this border crossing.

Now say I'm driving into a bad neighborhood in an unfamiliar town. Maybe I'm just stopping for gas. This could also indicate that I smuggled something over the border.

Maybe one stop was in Miami. Why not, I have friends there. But my next stop was anywhere else. 1+1= drug running.

The average Joe doesn't have much to worry about. Well, not until you happen to be at the same place that a known target frequents.

I know someone personally, who we'll call "A", who had this happen to him. He has a friend, who I also know, that we'll call "B". The friend would come visit on a regular basis. Unfortunately, this friend is Muslim. He attended mosque with a person suspected to have terrorist ties. We'll call him "C". B and C didn't know each other, other than possibly the casual "nice to meet you".

B is in a primarly cash business. He pays his taxes, and does just about everything honestly.

A's lawyers are bright folks sometimes. They spotted federal agents around his properties. His phones were tapped. As the word was passed on to me, the mystery black van was parked outside A's house.

A has another friend, who we'll label "D". D also knows B, but they aren't terribly close. I went to visit D, and spotted an unmarked car on his street. Driver wtih binoculars, parked in front of a house under construction.

A and D have never met potential terrorist C. They aren't Muslim, and have never gone to a mosque.

A and D have no terrorist ties. None. I know both of them well. Why are they being watched? D is being watched, because he's friends with A, who's friends with B, who's met C, who is only suspected of being a terrorist.

Me being able to find a phone number or an address is nothing. Wait til you get a free vacation in SouthEast Cuba because of several degrees of seperation from someone suspected of something.
Linda-4104-FL

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Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 11:16 pm:   

Bob, since you indicated you have spoken to the son regarding the bus, why didn't you just ask him for his father's phone number?
JW Smythe (Jwsmythe)

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Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 11:18 pm:   

David,

You're so right.

Birth, death, and marriage records are public record.

Phonebook listings are public, if you don't pay the extra money to have them not published, which gives your phone number and address.

Myself, I have more records that you can't find, but the government has. I know of at least 5 times that I was fingerprinted, and those fingerprints were sent off to the FBI. They were all legitimate background checks, but you know perfectly well they weren't checked and thrown away. I also have at least one record at the CIA, and one at Interpol. Local law enforcement in two places have my photograph, fingerprints, and files on me. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they did have DNA information on file. I've given blood several times over the years.

Then there are records that are suppose to be more private, such as your credit report. That damned credit report is evil. Not only is it abused, but it shows not only where you may have lived, but every freakin' line of credit that you've had or applied for.

If you had a source with the credit card companies, you could pull a report of everywhere you shop, how much you spend, etc, etc. That could then be used to go to the vendors and pull an accounting of exactly what you buy.

DMV records show what vehicles you own, your driving habits, and places you've gone if you've even been pulled over or your tag was randomly run. Yes, the police will run tags on cars in traffic and parked cars, just to see if there are any problems with the car or driver.

The whole concept of the "TIA" was to bring all that information together. One centralized resource to tell them everything about you.

Use me for an example. They know what my bus is (obviously), what my other owned vehicle is (probably the one in the trailer), places my tag has been run. They also know that I have a concealed weapons permit, and have bought a few weapons over the years. ya, now we're looking at trouble. I've been to Mexico for no "legitimate" reason, other than to go get drunk. My passport or drivers license was recorded that I did this border crossing.

Now say I'm driving into a bad neighborhood in an unfamiliar town. Maybe I'm just stopping for gas. This could also indicate that I smuggled something over the border.

Maybe one stop was in Miami. Why not, I have friends there. But my next stop was anywhere else. 1+1= drug running.

The average Joe doesn't have much to worry about. Well, not until you happen to be at the same place that a known target frequents.

I know someone personally, who we'll call "A", who had this happen to him. He has a friend, who I also know, that we'll call "B". The friend would come visit on a regular basis. Unfortunately, this friend is Muslim. He attended mosque with a person suspected to have terrorist ties. We'll call him "C". B and C didn't know each other, other than possibly the casual "nice to meet you".

B is in a primarly cash business. He pays his taxes, and does just about everything honestly.

A's lawyers are bright folks sometimes. They spotted federal agents around his properties. His phones were tapped. As the word was passed on to me, the mystery black van was parked outside A's house.

A has another friend, who we'll label "D". D also knows B, but they aren't terribly close. I went to visit D, and spotted an unmarked car on his street. Driver wtih binoculars, parked in front of a house under construction.

A and D have never met potential terrorist C. They aren't Muslim, and have never gone to a mosque.

A and D have no terrorist ties. None. I know both of them well. Why are they being watched? D is being watched, because he's friends with A, who's friends with B, who's met C, who is only suspected of being a terrorist.

Me being able to find a phone number or an address is nothing. Wait til you get a free vacation in SouthEast Cuba because of several degrees of seperation from someone suspected of something.
John MC9

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Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 12:14 am:   

Lest your question has gotten lost, let's re-post it:

"By Linda-4104-FL (70.11.219.37)
on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 11:16 pm:

Bob, since you indicated you have spoken to the son
regarding the bus, why didn't you just ask him for his
father's phone number?
"


It's a great question, and still unanswered?
Muddog16 (Muddog16)

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Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 6:39 am:   

My 83 year old mother and I had many discussions about this "Devils Tool", I could never convince her of how marvelouse this contraption was! I've been computing now since 92, and I'm beginning to understand more everyday.....I now know how to turn it on and come here daily.........:-)
truthhunter@shaw.ca

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Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 10:46 am:   

As I have been telling dem` "debuvls", again & again throughout the ages, if you can't stop something, get behind and try to push it in the direction you "believe" is best, then you will know the truths! Apparently that is just not being in enough control for those that need to beleive???
Bob Baldwin (Bob4106)

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Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 1:23 pm:   

Thanks to all for your input. I'm going to look at the bus and take it to a local bus shop and check it out.
I'll let you all know when the jury comes back
Thanks again

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