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Jeff Parker
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Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 2:31 pm:   

I'm wanting to pull a 25' RV trailor behind my 1973 MCI Crusader (40 ft). I need the extra space for my expanding family, and I have been trying to research this possibility. I have found that I will be okay with a total of 65' long when traveling to most states without needing a permit. However, this particular trailor I want is rather heavy (6800 lbs) and then I haven't even loaded anything inside. Can I do this? What is the towing capacity of an MCI bus?
Thanks for your help.
Ross Carlisle (Rrc62)
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Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 8:59 pm:   

General rule of thumb is to keep the tougue weight as light as possible. Personally, I would tow more than a small enclosed trailer. Maybe a 12 footer. It's not so critical with a toad because there is no tongue weight.
Marc Bourget
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Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 8:16 pm:   

I don't think a trailer length includes the hitch. A 25' trailer would, with the hitch, make you overlength.

RV Safety Systems has various methods of reducing hitch load to the bus. There's Gross Combined Vehicle Weight considerations, but a trailer shorter than 25 feet will be lighter and is within the limits of many other converters. It's doable, you just have to be smart about it.
Chuck Lott (Chuckmc8)
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Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 9:43 pm:   

Jeff, I think its too much weight. (my opinion) Your empty trailer weighs as much as towing two cars......My MC8 with 8V71N bus wouldnt pull that with any kind of drivability-Meaning it would really slow down up any kind of hill (but yours may do fine)
I think that towing 3,000 lbs is about the comfort limit. If you have a bigger engine or more than standard torque and the bus cooling system can keep up.....maybe.
Buses weren't made to tow...they just humor us.....to a point. But we can reach that point in a hurry.....
Jeff Parker (Days_of_noah)
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Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 1:54 pm:   

Thanks guys for your imput. I will definately take your ideas into consideration before making any purchases. I really wanted to be able to pull a trailor that I could make into a playroom for my kids (2yr old and one coming soon). If you have any other ideas, please let me know. With two small ones, we need the extra space for storage, as you can imagine! By the way, I'm on a limited budget! LOL
Thanks again.

Jeff Parker
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Bob Greenwood
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Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 2:21 pm:   

can ya' imagine trying to get that around a corner,WHEEEEEW, I would suggest a playroom, downstairs,in one of the bays,you could cut a trap door,kids would love that
JR Lynch (Njt5047)
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Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 8:33 pm:   

I don't think that the cantilevered frame section of an MC7,8, or 9 is up to towing the weight potential your describing. There's just nothing of strength to attach too without re-engineering the engine cradle section of the frame. Keep in mind that the bus has no frame, per se, behind the tag axles. The engine "hangs" on the frame that forms the radiator frames. More of a bridgework if you will. I'd find something lighter to tow. Towing a toad is not a problem due to the lack of tongue weight...trailers must have about 10% or better on the tongue..or more.
That said, people are doing what you want to do. Some are towing large trailers behind early MCIs...without problems as far as I've read??
I'd want to check out the rear frame very carefully for rust or cracked welds in the rear structual assemblies before attaching anything to the rear of the bus.
And, I agree with Chuck. Unless you got a big motor, you are going to have speed issues on every hill. An 8V71 just ain't gonna do it in the hills....it would move in the flatlands.
I don't know what you plan to do with such a long vehicle, but if you get into a situation where you have to back up due to not quite making a turn complete, you're gonna have "situation" from heII to deal with. I reckon you have some idea of what driving a 65' rig, with the long part in front, would be like...Post pix of the outfit...be interesting to see.
JR
RJ Long (Rjlong)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 12:51 am:   

Get yourself a tent-trailer for the playroom. Lightweight, easy to tow, easy to move around (especially with that $40 gizmo from Harbor Freight), simple to set up, used ones in excellent condition can be found cheap. No hitch load issues, a 20' unit expands out to 30', lots of room to play, not a huge amount of storage - but manageable. Be sure to get one with 13" wheels, not the little tiny donuts that the older Coleman's used.

See, a simple solution that fits your budget! :-)

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