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christopher l cole sr. (Muziklvr)
Registered Member Username: Muziklvr
Post Number: 1 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 68.119.228.79
Rating: Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 8:40 pm: | |
if someone says they have a wet clutch, what does this mean? |
Tom Caffrey (Pvcces)
Registered Member Username: Pvcces
Post Number: 968 Registered: 5-2001 Posted From: 65.74.70.16
Rating: Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 10:15 pm: | |
Christopher, it runs in oil. This means that when released, oil drags the disks along with it, so getting into gear after a stop can be a challenge. I don't have personal knowledge, but I expect that the reason the maker installed them was for a longer service life. You can overheat a dry disk clutch setup astonishingly quickly in a heavy duty rig. For what it's worth. Tom Caffrey PD4106-2576 Suncatcher Ketchikan, Alaska |
christopher l cole sr. (Muziklvr)
Registered Member Username: Muziklvr
Post Number: 2 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 68.119.228.79
Rating: Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 11:28 pm: | |
still lookin for my perfect bus,found a 4905 gmc,owner said it had 4 spd with a "wet" clutch,wasn't clear on what he meant by that.would this bus be any harder to drive than any other bus with a 4spd{un-syncro}?any info would be appreciated,thanks-chris |
John MC9 (John_mc9)
Registered Member Username: John_mc9
Post Number: 17 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 66.217.105.170
Rating: Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 12:03 am: | |
It's no harder to drive a wet clutch than a dry type, once you're accustomed to it's nuances. Your shift (double-clutch) timing will change as the oil heats.. In very cold weather, the wet clutch challenges you to figure out how long to wait before attempting to go into the next gear... or downshift.. When coming to a stop in cold climates, we usually shifted into first as we came to a stop. Trying to get it into first after stopping (in freezing weather), upset passengers who assumed you must be a new driver, the way you grind gears.... The benefits outweigh the challenge (if you're the owner of it), since maintenance (adjustment) of the clutch was usually rare. A wet clutch usually lasted a ton longer than the dry type, and seemed as if it provided for a much smoother take-off. That clutch should be the least of your concerns... Have the rig checked out at a competent bus garage prior to making an offer, or with the contingency of dissolving the offer it it fails an inspection, and/or requires more than you desire to pay, to have it repaired. Oh.... And all used buses need work (read: $$$$$$$$)! Lotsa' luck! |
Craig (Ceieio)
Registered Member Username: Ceieio
Post Number: 223 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 206.212.230.165
Rating: Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 1:04 am: | |
All of my dirt bikes are wet clutch setups. Also the old D4 I have borrowed from a friend is a wet clutch too. They are meant for long wear in rough / heavy service. I have only driven one bus with a wet clutch, and as John says, it is not a big deal other than making sure you ease it into first as you come to a stop. The wet clutch was a stock setup on the 4905 I belive. Craig - MC7 Oregon |
jlvickers Unregistered guest Posted From: 71.52.82.62
Rating: Votes: 2 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 2:52 am: | |
GMC intercity coaches PD4107,PD4108 PD4903,P8M4108A,P8M4905A,H8H649 series coaches all of these coaches have a wet clutch. If they have the 4 speed Spicer transmission. Previous post are correct the clutch operates in oil. |
christopher l cole sr. (Muziklvr)
Registered Member Username: Muziklvr
Post Number: 3 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 68.119.228.79
Rating: Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 6:52 pm: | |
thanks to all who posted on this-chris |
RJ Long (Rjlong)
Registered Member Username: Rjlong
Post Number: 984 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 71.195.113.23
Rating: Votes: 2 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 9:50 am: | |
Chris - If you go to the Main BNO page, scroll down the LH menu to "Articles of Interest" and read the one on "Shifting". You should find it helpful. |