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RJ Long (Rjlong)
Registered Member Username: Rjlong
Post Number: 1028 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 71.195.113.23
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 12:12 am: | |
Does anyone have any experience with this Honda genset? Or it's smaller brother, the EU2000i? I'd like to install one of these in the small cargo trailer I use with my business. I don't need a lot of kW for the intended use, so either one would work. Input appreciated. |
mark (Coolbus)
Registered Member Username: Coolbus
Post Number: 22 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 65.40.227.162
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 10:56 am: | |
Hello RJ I did alot of research before I bought my portable generator. The Honda EU3000 is an 'inverter' style generator, which means cleaner power to run electronics with less problems. It is also the quietest in it's class. And it is a Honda! Three good reasons for me. I have not yet fired it up, so have no firsthand experience with it. Honda says there is no remote start capability with it, but I may try to anyway. HTH Mark |
donnreeves
Unregistered guest Posted From: 69.115.76.219
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 10:05 am: | |
RJ, I bought an EU2000 for my mother who lives in Fla.It is easy to use,quiet and light enough for older folks to handle.They used it for about ten days last year,mainly to keep the 'fridge and some lights running after a hurricane.No problems and they loved it. Donn |
Gus Causbie (Gusc)
Registered Member Username: Gusc
Post Number: 193 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 63.97.117.11
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 7:53 pm: | |
RJ, I just bought a Honda EV6010 but haven't even opened the box yet. I did scads of research and concluded that it was far and away the best value and maybe the quietest one on the market. I decided this was a better way to go than a diesel at half the price. |
Tim Jones (Torquester)
Registered Member Username: Torquester
Post Number: 91 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 12.73.177.250
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 9:10 pm: | |
RJ, I camp with my buddy that has an EU300i. He has been using it for four seasons now with zero problems. It is super quiet, uses very little fuel,and starts easily. If I needed a small gas powered genny, this would be the one. hth, Tq |
James Y. Gochnauer (Jimgohio)
Registered Member Username: Jimgohio
Post Number: 3 Registered: 4-2001 Posted From: 64.0.112.163
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 11:18 pm: | |
I have used the EU3000is and it can run up to a 13.5k AC. It is electric and pull start and is quiet but weighs more than you want to carry very far by yourself. The EU2000i is pull start only and either model can be hooked together to the same size/model to produce twice the power. Jim G. RTS-II |
guy bouchard (Guy_bouchard)
Registered Member Username: Guy_bouchard
Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 161.184.202.244
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 8:06 pm: | |
There seems to be a problem with inverter type power plants if you wish to run sound equipment with them. They only rev up high enough to supply the required wattage, but with sound equipment (amplifiers), when bass notes come in, the power required isn't quick enough to respond. Might not be of any importance to others, but we notice this odd thing. Guy |
Carroll 4104
Unregistered guest Posted From: 64.147.215.44
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 8:50 pm: | |
I've had an EU 1000 for 7-8 years and have never had any trouble with it. I've run it for hundreds of hours per weekend at race track camps without hookups. I just recently bought two 2000's with the parrell cable and it pulls the roof ac with no trouble at all. Have only had them this summer but they seem to be as relaible as the 1000. Carroll |
sylverstone (Sylverstone_pd4501864)
Registered Member Username: Sylverstone_pd4501864
Post Number: 197 Registered: 7-2005 Posted From: 216.173.223.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 11:02 pm: | |
i spent a few hours at the honda dealer today. seriously looking at buying one of the 3000's. note to all of you considering this... the parallel kit to use 2 of the 2000's together is 250 bucks, because it requires a lot more hardware than hooking up two of the 3000's. (that kit is 59 bucks because the 3000 has a 30 amp plug already) from the prices i saw, i'd go for the 3k before i would go for 2 of the 2k's. the way this system works is that you are basically making a single 30 amp circuit, *plus* both generators will still supply other items off their regular outlets, up to the maximum capacity of the generator. additionally, these generators only spin as fast as their output requires, so they are not running wide open all the time. the 3000 also has a 12 volt 8 amp output that is suitable for running ac accessories, charging batteries, etc. as far as i am aware you can't bond it to a second generator like you can the ac side of things, but i think i have a way around that unless i find a really nice 1800 rpm diesel genny for reasonable, i'm going with a couple of the 3k's. -dd |
RJ Long (Rjlong)
Registered Member Username: Rjlong
Post Number: 1032 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 71.195.113.23
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 12:45 pm: | |
Thanks everyone for your comments, they are appreciated. Between the intial post and today, I found a used EU2000i on our local craigslist, am going to check it out tomorrow. This is going in a small cargo trailer, primarily for the use of some small power tools - nothing fancy. Maybe a little boom box too, the kind that sits on a bookcase shelf - no big 12" woofers for me, Guy. . . LOL Thanks again for the input! (Message edited by rjlong on September 27, 2006) |
regular friend Unregistered guest Posted From: 64.228.88.209
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 10:32 pm: | |
Hello RJ. On recommendation from the guy who owns Honda World, friend of a friend, I got the Yamaha 3000 watt one. Same gig, inverter, auto throttle. The Yamaha, as of last Nov. had some capacity to over-produce for motor starts, that Honda hadn't got yet. May have caught up now? Doesn't matter which you get, they are great little power plants. Easy on gas, dead quiet. Electric start is great! I would have got the Honda, if he didn't suggest the other. happy coaching! _uswarrior (need new key_oard, 2nd letter _roken!) |
herman Unregistered guest Posted From: 216.239.165.42
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 7:56 am: | |
I bought 2 EU2000s 2 years ago; the published specs for fuel capacity and runtime @ 25% & 100% load imply a very flat KWH/gallon (as a function of load KW, i.e. KWH/gal vs. KW, or (KWH/gal)/KW ) curve superior to the other members of the line. This is in fact not the case, as borne out by experiment; they are in fact not particularly more fuel efficient at partial loads than other members of the line. I advised Honda of this, and as far as I know they did not correct their specs. Part of my testing used dimmable 300 and 500W halogen lights as loads. When running a single unit in the shade with an ambient temperature in the mid to upper 80s, I found that it would not supply rated voltage above about 1400W of load; basically, the voltage would fold back as more load was added, so as to keep overall output at 1400W (or VA, don't recall which I was measuring). Again, I advised Honda of this, had a dealer confirm it, and got only runaround in reply. I suspect that the airflow through the unit (the electronics module that contains the inverter gets first crack at that flow) is marginal, and that it can provide the rated sustained output of 1600VA only at some unspecified lower ambient. You can get simple paralleling cables for something like $30-50; the $200+ ones have, additionally, a box containing a higher ampacity outlet. Note that you can also buy the jacks on the genset's front panel that these cables plug into - for like $20 each! So, you can make your own paralleling box. I cobbled up a circuit breaker panel that can parallel virtually any number of these units, using these cables (either cut in half and hardwired to support 2 gensets / cable, or via additional jacks at the box, supporting 1 genset / cable and plugability at either genset or box end of the cable). Note that the genset breakers govern only the front panel NEMA outlets, and not the paralleling jacks, and that you can thus generate 'large' (with respect to the paralling cables and your typical <=15A extension cords) fault currents if you parallel units. Therefore, you need to arrange the breaker panel to have a service entrance breaker (I suggest 20A for an EU2K; 15A is a little under peak genset supply ampacity) for each genset, feeding the panel's bus, and then separate load breakers as desired. Also, you can get a spare fuel cap, disassemble it, tap it for a 1/8" pipe thread, and attach an appropriate fitting and hose to an external fuel tank for extended unattended runtime; starting with a full internal tank, the unit's drawdown creates a vacuum that can easily lift fuel over a foot vertically. I've used plastic marine fuel tanks and the self sealing quick disconnect fittings used for outboard motors. So, between the breaker panel and the fueling hack, I had 3 EU2ks running for several days, and only had to top off the single marine tank 2-3 times a day. As noted, the units are unable to spool up the engines quickly enough to respond to the large load transients imposed by music amplifiers (and electric motors - I was running both amps and fridges, and needed much more capacity than the combined nameplate loads indicated). The solution is to turn off the "Eco-Throttle" feature, so that the engine instead runs at full speed despite load. When paralleling multiple units, you can choose how many to run at this 'high' setting (with the remainder running on 'low'), as required by your load characteristics. |
Mike Eades (Mike4905)
Registered Member Username: Mike4905
Post Number: 114 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 24.28.40.72
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 5:17 pm: | |
RJ I have a eu3000 that I carried in my 24 foot box trailer for my motorcycle shop on wheels. When I lost my fuel pump on my wirco, I run my honda with know problems. I have used this unit for four years. No problems. I did replace the starter. Not a big job if you do it your self. Very quiet and easy on gas. I welded casters underneath so I could roll it around. I did not buy the wheel kit, too pricey. Mike4905 |
Mike Eades (Mike4905)
Registered Member Username: Mike4905
Post Number: 115 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 24.28.40.72
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 5:19 pm: | |
RJ I have a eu3000 that I carried in my 24 foot box trailer for my motorcycle shop on wheels. When I lost my fuel pump on my wirco, I ran my honda with no problems. I have used this unit for four years. No problems. I did replace the starter. Not a big job if you do it your self. Very quiet and easy on gas. I welded casters underneath so I could roll it around. I did not buy the wheel kit, too pricey. Mike4905 |
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