4104 tank heater location Log Out | Topics | Search
Moderators | Edit Profile

BNO BBS - BNO's Bulletin Board System » THE ARCHIVES » Year 2006 » November 2006 » 4104 tank heater location « Previous Next »

Author Message
John Zabrocki (John_z)
Registered Member
Username: John_z

Post Number: 6
Registered: 9-2006
Posted From: 64.61.224.73

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 2:36 pm:   

Does anyone have a picture or know where one is posted that shows the location and water hose used to install a tank heater on the 671? Tried google but it came up blank. TIA
Bob greenwood (Bob_greenwood)
Registered Member
Username: Bob_greenwood

Post Number: 278
Registered: 7-2006
Posted From: 4.90.27.19

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 3:19 pm:   

are you asking about a block heater ?
John Zabrocki (John_z)
Registered Member
Username: John_z

Post Number: 7
Registered: 9-2006
Posted From: 64.61.224.234

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 3:35 pm:   

Hi Bob, no, i would have to order the block htr and it would take several days. I was hoping to use the bus this weekend. NAPA has a tank htr in stock. I see what looks like a heater type of hose that runs from the takeoff on top of lower radiator hose all the way to the top of the engine. I am wondering if i can just splice the htr into that hose,,, was asking what the others had done.
sylverstone (Sylverstone_pd4501864)
Registered Member
Username: Sylverstone_pd4501864

Post Number: 208
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 216.173.223.253

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 4:27 pm:   

umm. what exactly are you trying to do?
-dd
John Zabrocki (John_z)
Registered Member
Username: John_z

Post Number: 8
Registered: 9-2006
Posted From: 64.61.224.91

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 4:35 pm:   

Am trying to install a tank heater, to preheat the 671 for easier starts. Otherwise it always takes a shot of ether to get running. It is starting to cool off up in Northern Minnesota!
Douglas Wotring (Tekebird)
Registered Member
Username: Tekebird

Post Number: 13
Registered: 10-2004
Posted From: 69.136.90.146

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 4:38 pm:   

I would use Either until your block heater comes in.......

they also make magnetic oil pan heaters

I would not screw with the cooling system.....just adds additional failure points
Bob greenwood (Bob_greenwood)
Registered Member
Username: Bob_greenwood

Post Number: 279
Registered: 7-2006
Posted From: 4.90.28.38

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 4:55 pm:   

you are trying to get a block heater that hooks into the heater hoses, I had one on my Mack truck,they work o.k. It should have instructions with it,I got mine at a farm supply..
RJ Long (Rjlong)
Registered Member
Username: Rjlong

Post Number: 1073
Registered: 12-2000
Posted From: 67.181.163.170

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 4:55 pm:   

John -

If you haven't already, call Luke at US Coach (1-888-262-2434 between 9 - 5 M - F Eastern), and he'll ship the correct block heater out to you the same day via UPS.

Great supporter of the busnut community, btw.

FWIW & HTH. . .

:-)
Dallas (Dal300)
Registered Member
Username: Dal300

Post Number: 137
Registered: 3-2006
Posted From: 67.33.248.228

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 5:00 pm:   

John,
If you really want to use the bus this weekend, go ahead and order the block heater.
In the meantime buy one of those $3.99 throwaway grills. Fill it with charcoal as full as you can get it, light it and wait for it to lose the flames. When you have ash around most of the charcoal, slide it under the oil pan. If you need to, put a piece of cardboard on the windward side to block the wind.
Lot's of truck drivers through the years, in cluding me have used this method.
I have started trucks at -40° in Duluth, Superior and Fargo.
I didn't try it in Thunder Bay or International Falls, But it should work.
Bob greenwood (Bob_greenwood)
Registered Member
Username: Bob_greenwood

Post Number: 280
Registered: 7-2006
Posted From: 4.90.28.38

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 5:06 pm:   

look at # 110046616894 on ebay..that is what you are looking for, try farm supply & even sears, I can't post anymore on this subject,I@N says too many posts
John Feld (Wvobus)
Registered Member
Username: Wvobus

Post Number: 5
Registered: 2-2005
Posted From: 150.199.209.38

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 6:46 pm:   

abk heaters work best when located at the lowest point available as warm coolant, like warm air rises. The block heater works best, the oil pan heater second best, stay away from a diostick heater as thry create condisation inside the motor.

Or, drain the oil into bucks and take it inside overnight and reinstall next day. I would start and warm my trucks every 4 hours in below zerro wheather so they would start in the morning, lots of old tricks drivers did before modern methods came about.
Paso One (Paso_1)
Registered Member
Username: Paso_1

Post Number: 73
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 142.165.246.239

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 7:17 pm:   

If You remove the fitting on the front of the lower head and run the hose to your tank heater. Then run a heater hose to the back of the top head (remove same plug ) install barbed nipples standard threads. Then run that hose to the other nipple on the tank heater. That will keep your 6 - 71 toasty mines been like that for 10 years. In Canada those tank heaters are commonally called circulation heaters. But they are one in the same. -45 F they work great.
john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member
Username: Chessie4905

Post Number: 331
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 71.58.126.56

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 8:52 pm:   

You could get one of those magnetic heaters and stick it to the bottom of the oil pan till you get the correct block heater or using one of those torpedo heaters for a temporary solution.
John Zabrocki (John_z)
Registered Member
Username: John_z

Post Number: 9
Registered: 9-2006
Posted From: 64.61.225.150

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 9:23 pm:   

OK, the votes are counted and the block heater seems to be the favorite. I will be calling Luke in the morning and ordering one. Thanks to all of you for the tips to get by until i install the block heater. Started packing the bus tonight!!! Great list!!!!
Frank Allen (Frank66)
Registered Member
Username: Frank66

Post Number: 31
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 152.163.100.138

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 9:42 am:   

I got a block heater for my 4106 at napa that goes in the block they should have them, put it in in 15 minutes
Frank Allen
4106
Jim Wilke (Pd41044039)
Registered Member
Username: Pd41044039

Post Number: 94
Registered: 2-2001
Posted From: 65.244.182.131

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 11:27 pm:   

I put one on my 4104 (6-71) I first installed it connected to a handy drain plug on the lower water outlet elbow and connected to a plug on the water manifold behind the thermostat. This did not work as the heat caused the thermostat to open, then the heater did a good job of keeping the radiator hot but the engine was cold.

I had to reconfigure to connect the lower hose at the lower rear of the block, mount the heater low next to the oil pan, and the upper connection to the place on the rear of the block where the air compressor water feed is (behind the blower drive shaft.) This ran the hot water through the rear of the block where it spread nicely to the front but did not open the thermostat & get out into the radiator. The 2000 watt heater warms the engine up nicely in about 1 hour at 32 degrees.

Jim-Bob
john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member
Username: Chessie4905

Post Number: 338
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 71.58.126.56

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 7:20 pm:   

BTW they are called " electric summertime "

Add Your Message Here
Posting is currently disabled in this topic. Contact your discussion moderator for more information.

Topics | Last Day | Last Week | Tree View | Search | Help/Instructions | Program Credits Administration