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charles white (205.188.192.23)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 3:18 pm: | |
I have a 67-01 eagle and planning on pulling the engine out to to rebuild the drivers side and while it s out i have the chanct to aquire a ten speed roadranger complete / bell housing clutch and all linkage etc and need some input on this chageover as i have a spicer 4sp in it now. was wondering if it will be a good choise for me as i plan on driving some mtns and have no jake brake just needed some input.. thanks Charlie |
Lee Brady (Leeb11) (199.44.43.248)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 8:52 pm: | |
Charlie
A road ranger transmission would work good for running in the mountians.
But Jakes would be a bigger help,also if you plan on installing the road ranger make sure you have the right rear end gear ratio or you could be doing nothing more than changing a transmission
and shifting more.
Lee 66-01 |
charlie white (64.12.104.47)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 9:11 pm: | |
Lee
thanks for the input I am going over to the garage tommorrow is there aplate on the rear end that tells you the ratio? thanks charlie |
Henry Draper (12.82.137.112)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 10:56 pm: | |
Hi Charlie,
I have a 10-speed road ranger in my '64 Eagle. The engine is a 8V92TA. I love the road ranger.
I also have Jakes, so I don't know if the 10-speed does anything for downhill driving--the Jakes do the work. But I suspect the transmission helps.
The great thing about the 10-speed for me is that I always have the proper gear for any situation I find myself in. It's great to be able to keep the engine turning the proper RPMs to maintain optimal torque range pulling hills, running flat-out on the flats, whatever!
I believe shifting is fun! And I'm now to the point that I only use the clutch to get started, or I get into a really tricky situation. Otherwise, I match transmission and engine RPM and it just slides right into the next higher or lower gear. Great fun!!
You'll also get better mileage. With my 8V92, and crusing at 70-75 MPH, I get 7.7 MPG. People are suspicious of those numbers, but that's what I get when I'm not running through the mountains. Mountain driving drops me down to 7.1. Towing my Suburban brings it down to 6.5 or so. I've come to understand that that's great mileage, and I attribute it to my 10-speed. (I'm told I have a "double overdrive" but I don't know exactly what that means.
What I do know is that I love it and won't be changing to an automatic--even if I could afford it!--in the near future.
Good luck,
Henry Draper
1964 Eagle
Edmonds, WA
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RJ Long (24.127.8.58)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 11:22 pm: | |
Henry -
IIRC, both 9th and 10th in your RoadRanger are overdrive gears, that is, "taller" than 1:1.
Using a simple 4-spd, a non-overdrive model might have ratios like this:
First: 3.83:1
Second: 2.57:1
Third: 1.85:1
Fourth: 1.00:1
If it is a simple Overdrive 4-speed, the ratios might look like this:
First: 3.75:1
Second: 2.44:1
Third: 1.15:1
Fourth: 0.89:1
Make sense?
Now you know why your fuel mileage improves when you're able to loaf along in 10th rather than on the governor in 8th.
RJ
PD4106-2784
Fresno CA |
Mrbus (205.188.199.52)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2002 - 9:43 am: | |
Charles.
I think you would be very happy with the "Roadranger" upgrade. Be aware that your entire shift linkage will need to be changed from your four speed with the two rods. The shift lever and connecting hardware from an International cab over tractor will work just great. Either the International 4000 series or the 4070. will do the job for you. There were many many of these units built, and they are readily available in big truck salvage yards at a very reasonable price.(not much demand for them)
The RT 910 Roadranger will work very well, no real need to go to the bigger (read more torque capacity)numbers. Any of the RT series can be converted from ten speed direct to an overdrive by a simple gear change. The rear end ratio you presently have (if the original) will give you exactly the same highway speed with the ten speed direct, that you had with the four speed. By changing the Roadranger to an overdrive tenth gear you will increse your top speed, and lower the RPM at cruise. Nice part of this gearbox is that you have a gear ratio that will keep your Detroiter running in it's best power output range, regardless of terraine.
Gus Haag Minnesota |
Henry Draper (12.82.130.100)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2002 - 10:35 am: | |
Thanks for the info RJ.
Henry |
Jojo Colina (Du1jec) (209.75.20.72)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2002 - 12:32 pm: | |
Anyone know if a Roadranger would fit into an MCI-5a with an 8v71? What would need to change? |
Mick Zortman (64.12.101.168)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2002 - 9:23 am: | |
Gus Haag
Hi Gus, I'm wondering which shift tower to use with the shift mechanism from the International. Also, how do you set it up to shift properly? Thanks for all of the good information above. It is posts like yours, with specific information, that really helps folks get the right parts to make things work.
Mick Zortman Mississippi |