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Manny (Buscrazyinfl)
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Username: Buscrazyinfl
Post Number: 19
Registered: 6-2006
Posted From: 72.185.35.73
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 8:55 pm: | |
My EAGLE 05 was retitled back in 1988 after a professional conversion and I cannot find the original vin # anywhere. It has an 8V71 engine, which is supposedly the original that was rebuilt. Is there a way to ID the engine? I did find the numbers "78" raised on the block by the manifold on the right side. Could that be a year? I'd really like to solve the mystery...can anyone help? |
Bob greenwood (Bob_greenwood)
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Username: Bob_greenwood
Post Number: 449
Registered: 7-2006
Posted From: 64.136.49.228
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 9:35 pm: | |
open the engine compartment door....on the framework around the opening...on the bottom right hand side, there should be a plate welded there that has a number on it...my bus is a 1978 & the sn is 19835...if you get your s.n. it will be fairly easy to find the year |
Buswarrior (Buswarrior)
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Username: Buswarrior
Post Number: 957
Registered: 12-2000
Posted From: 64.228.88.169
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 9:53 pm: | |
Those that re-title buses know where all the identifiers are and popularly remove them to hide the original vintage.
Dark lighting, make-up, a little cosmetic surgery and you can't tell the mothers from the daughters, or the grandmothers, for that matter!
happy coaching!
buswarrior |
Bob greenwood (Bob_greenwood)
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Username: Bob_greenwood
Post Number: 450
Registered: 7-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 9:57 pm: | |
what are you smokeing tonight buswarrior...lets see if he can find it before you try to outguess everybody |
Buswarrior (Buswarrior)
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Username: Buswarrior
Post Number: 958
Registered: 12-2000
Posted From: 64.228.88.169
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 10:24 pm: | |
My smokes come in a bottle!
quite right, have a look first!
happy coaching!
buswarrior |
H3-40 (Ace)
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Username: Ace
Post Number: 404
Registered: 10-2004
Posted From: 75.201.27.187
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 10:53 pm: | |
There isn't any plate welded on his frame. He was shown where to look for it and it isn't there!
Ace |
Manny (Buscrazyinfl)
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Username: Buscrazyinfl
Post Number: 20
Registered: 6-2006
Posted From: 72.185.35.73
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 8:38 am: | |
Ok, I found the original plate on the back. It was coverd with paint and guess what, they ground off the old # and stamped it with the new one. I'm hoping that somewhere else there is the original vin #. I will keep looking. If any body knows of another place to look let me know ... thanks. See you in Arcadia, Ace. |
Richard Bowyer (Drivingmisslazy)
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Username: Drivingmisslazy
Post Number: 1770
Registered: 1-2001
Posted From: 75.108.82.163
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 9:15 am: | |
What is the number stamped there? If it is a 5 digit number, then it is probably the original number. The number on mine was hand stamped on a piece of flat plate and then welded into the engine compartment frame.
If a new vin was assigned it would have been a 17 digit number in 1988 I believe.
Richard |
Bob greenwood (Bob_greenwood)
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Username: Bob_greenwood
Post Number: 451
Registered: 7-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 10:08 am: | |
YES... tell us the number you found !!! |
Manny (Buscrazyinfl)
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Username: Buscrazyinfl
Post Number: 21
Registered: 6-2006
Posted From: 72.185.35.73
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 3:08 pm: | |
yes it has 17 digit number. |
Brian Brown (Blue_velvet)
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Username: Blue_velvet
Post Number: 409
Registered: 6-2005
Posted From: 72.19.152.144
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 1:18 am: | |
My '78 8v71 does indeed have a serial # and plate on it. I found it when I replaced the starter last month... it was buried underneath it.
Are you trying to date the coach OR the engine? The VIN was likely redone to get it re-titled in some state because the true VIN was lost at some point. Or the professional converter was trying to be coy about the bus year. At any rate, whatever state that did the VIN work MIGHT have record of the old chassis number(s).
HTH,
Brian Brown |
Len Silva (Lsilva)
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Username: Lsilva
Post Number: 79
Registered: 12-2000
Posted From: 71.30.244.26
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 8:45 am: | |
Try running the VIN through carfax or one of the other sources from NADA or Kelley.
Len |
Bob greenwood (Bob_greenwood)
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Username: Bob_greenwood
Post Number: 473
Registered: 7-2006
Posted From: 64.136.49.228
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 7:19 pm: | |
YEP...that will do it... if you have a friend in the car business..ask him to research it...if not...I think it costs 25.00 |
larry currier (Larryc)
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Username: Larryc
Post Number: 6
Registered: 2-2007
Posted From: 207.200.116.13
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 2:42 pm: | |
The 05 eagles had the vin # welded to the AC on the pass side in the engine compartment. It was probably removed with the AC. When I removed the AC on my 05 I welded the vin back onto the frame rail. |