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| Jack Gregg (Jackinkc)
Registered Member Username: Jackinkc Post Number: 91 Registered: 8-2003 Posted From: 72.129.232.62 Rating: N/A |
Have you ever seen a bus with a grill guard? Some times they are called bull guards or deer guards. I am told that they are called roo-bars in Australia. They look sharp on a big truck but I am not too sure about a bus. I am thinking about covering over the headlight holes (four headlight system) on my 84 Prevost, looking at a grill guard and mounting headlights on the grill guard. Ever seen anything like this? Jack  | ||
| sylverstone (Sylverstone_pd4501864)
Registered Member Username: Sylverstone_pd4501864 Post Number: 245 Registered: 7-2005 Posted From: 216.173.223.253 Rating: N/A |
http://www.sylverstone.com/sca/images/war_wagon/land_train.jpg heh  i would like some kind of front end protection for my scenic, but i'm really not sure how i would make it unobtrusive. -dd | ||
| jim morrison (Jim_morrison)
Registered Member Username: Jim_morrison Post Number: 55 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 72.142.29.218 Rating: N/A |
in norther ont. Can. it's called a moose guard, and you don't want to hit one , makes a big mess of everything , if ya live threw the collision | ||
| RJ Long (Rjlong)
Registered Member Username: Rjlong Post Number: 1152 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 71.195.127.101 Rating: N/A |
Jack - Grill guards are there to protect both the radiator and the headlights. If you mount the lights on the guard, you increase the risk of damage to them. Here's a pic link to a Denning Landseer, used by Greyhound Australia, with a hefty bull or 'roo-bar mounted on the front: http://www.greyhound.com.au/images/bus_sales/131.jpg "They look sharp on a big truck but I am not too sure about a bus." After looking at the pic, what say you? HTH. . . | ||
| Bob greenwood (Bob_greenwood)
Registered Member Username: Bob_greenwood Post Number: 529 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 64.136.49.228 Rating: N/A |
you can do it for 'looks' if you want,it won't 'protect' anything,you have nothing but sheet metal to fasten it to | ||
| Richard Bowyer (Drivingmisslazy)
Registered Member Username: Drivingmisslazy Post Number: 1797 Registered: 1-2001 Posted From: 75.108.79.170 Rating: N/A |
We call them brush guards here in this part of the country. Most have tabs to mount driving lights that are really a big help in looking for deer on the highway. Usually set up so that can only come on when hi beams are on. I have them on my Tahoe. Don't think I would want my headlights on them though. Richard | ||
| Tony Gojenola (Akbusnut)
Registered Member Username: Akbusnut Post Number: 3 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 69.178.30.245 Rating: N/A |
A lot of truckers use them - and call them by their area-specific name. Here in Alaska, its called a "moose gooser." If properly mounted they are usually effective in protecting radiator, grill and headlights, but not always. It depends on the sort of impact, and I have seen situations where a truck hit a moose or bison with no discernable damage to the rig. But I have also seen a few where a glancing - or less than full impact collision with a moose caused the guard to collapse into, and damaging the grill, radiator, and some of the headlight. In those incidents, absence of the guard would have resulted in different, but lesser damages. You can make your own decisions about using one on a bus, but I personally would not. These collisions occur mostly in the winter and during low visisbility conditions. I won't be driving my coach in those conditions. However, there may be something to be said about additional protection such a thing would provide against the all-too-often observed situation caused by the driving antics of that 17-year old girl who believes she is rendered bulletproof regardless of conditions by her 4-wheel drive graduation present. ymmv tg | ||
| Sean Welsh (Sean)
Registered Member Username: Sean Post Number: 497 Registered: 1-2003 Posted From: 66.82.9.53 Rating: N/A |
We had one made for Odyssey and it looks just like it came that way from the factory. Our front-end bodywork is plastic and getting very hard to replace. It's been repaired several times, and we just did not want to take a chance on minor parking-lot scrapes busting the parts right off. Also, I'd already replaced both headlamp lenses, to the tune of $165 each, due to rock strikes -- inevitable with the lights that close to the road -- so I had Lexan protectors included over the headlamps. The whole thing is extremely heavy-gauge steel, so much so that the rails had to be fabricated in three sections and welded together, since such heavy pipe can not just be bent to the required radius. The finish is black powder-coat, which has held up well (although it now has a couple of chips due to those ever-present rock strikes). Here are a couple of photos taken right after installation: http://odyssey.smugmug.com/gallery/131040/1/121307101 http://odyssey.smugmug.com/gallery/131040/1/121307726 The large square-section cross-bar at the bottom is to attach to the mounting points, welded to the "frame" on either side of the towing pintle. It's impossible to make out in these photos, but there are also mounting tabs on the lowest rail for driving or fog lamps. -Sean http://OurOdyssey.US (Message edited by Sean on January 06, 2007) | ||
| Bob greenwood (Bob_greenwood)
Registered Member Username: Bob_greenwood Post Number: 530 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 64.136.49.229 Rating: N/A |
buying a windshield for that would bring tears | ||
| Jack Gregg (Jackinkc)
Registered Member Username: Jackinkc Post Number: 92 Registered: 8-2003 Posted From: 24.166.167.150 Rating: N/A |
Thanks for the comments and thanks for the pics. One of the nice things about the guard in my picture is that it folds down on a hinge. I might be able to finesse this into access to the spare tire compartment. I might mount headlights behind the guard. Jack | ||
| Sean Welsh (Sean)
Registered Member Username: Sean Post Number: 498 Registered: 1-2003 Posted From: 67.142.130.43 Rating: N/A |
"buying a windshield for that would bring tears" It did, indeed. I've replaced both windshields once already, and the upper is cracked again and needs another replacement. The glass is around $1,800 for the lower and just a bit less for the upper (which is larger -- go figure). The lower glass is so close to the ground that we take rocks constantly. We get each chip epoxy-filled immediately, to keep it from spreading. "One of the nice things about the guard in my picture is that it folds down on a hinge." I neglected to mention that our guard detaches with the removal of two pins. The guard mounts with nested square tubes, similar to trailer receivers. It needs to be easily removable so that the towing pintle, which is behind the bodywork, can be accessed, and also for headlamp replacement. -Sean http://OurOdyssey.US |