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Ron Daniels (Ncrealauctions)
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Username: Ncrealauctions
Post Number: 4
Registered: 7-2006
Posted From: 206.138.130.2
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 5:18 pm: | |
I'm a newbie with little knowledge of the value of engines and transmissions. I have located a a surplus fire truck with a Detroit Diesel 8V-71 with Allison HT740 transmission. It cranks and runs great. It is a clean new looking engine, no oil leaks and no smoke. Engine has 59,000 miles since new. Engine has never been rebuilt. It drives wonderfully. My question is what would be a fair price for both buyer and seller for a package deal for motor and transmission? Owner is willing to sell me just motor and transmission. Ron |
Dan West (Utahclaimjumper)
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Username: Utahclaimjumper
Post Number: 24
Registered: 1-2005
Posted From: 208.66.39.51
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 7:08 pm: | |
Ron, it would depend on your use for this engine, certain applications will not take this engine with out major($$$$) mods. What will you be installing this engine in??>>>>Dan |
Michael Malloy (Busnut06)
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Username: Busnut06
Post Number: 35
Registered: 6-2005
Posted From: 63.27.55.98
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 9:32 pm: | |
Ron,In a fire truck application the engine most likely ran to drive a pump about an additional 20 minutes for every ten miles of odometer. That means that it probably equates to about 200,000 miles of road. The transmission probably has a PTO possibly two that with some imagination can be used for something else (hydraulic leveling etc.) I don't mean to discourage you, it may be a good deal but a low mileage fire truck is not always a cherry.
Godspeed,
Michael |
norcal kyle (Kylexisxrad)
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Username: Kylexisxrad
Post Number: 106
Registered: 12-2005
Posted From: 216.220.208.125
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 12:05 pm: | |
I agree. my grandpa is the retired sacramento fire chief and he told me that those fire truck motors will just run and run and run. have you ever noticed that they don't shut them down when they arrive on scene? most of the time their maintenence is #1, but just sitting there running does take a toll. the fire house near me is already getting ready to replace a DD Series 60 in a 2002 Pierce rig. before you make any commitments shop around. the 8v71/HT740 combo is a good strong motor and pretty much bulletproof, so just make sure you find the right one. check out Nimco for reman engines that are ready to put in a bus(which I'm guessing you're doing). www.nimcobus.com
kyle in norcal
1980 Eagle 10 #30223 |
Cameron Jones (Crazy71)
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Username: Crazy71
Post Number: 10
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 75.179.158.67
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 7:39 pm: | |
I had a 1947 Mack Pumper truck about 5 years ago. It had a gasoline Mack(pretty much GMC) 510 cubic inch inline 6 in it. It has 12,300 original miles when I purchased it. I sold it with 15,500 on it. Ran perfect. It had the PTO as mentioned above. The engine rpm would tach up when you engaged the pump. So you have to consider that the miles on something like this without an hour meter are just road miles. They could easily have two more times that form pumping and idle time. My 12,500 could have been more like the hours for 36,000. But, as said, these engines,(buses and all this heavy equipment) we are talking about are pretty much overbuilt....or at least extremely well built.
I would base my decision more on how it runs and smoke at start up (on a diesel) or get an old diesel mechanic to check it out and give his opinion. I am by no means a diesel mechanic but I know my passenger auto engines from late 40s to current. I can tell by opening the hood about how many miles are on it and a quick inspecion tells me a lot. Then you can go in depth if concerned with compression and leakdown test and oil analysis. A very experienced diesel guy would be valuable in a decision here.
Good luck... |
jim wagner (Graffixx2000)
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Username: Graffixx2000
Post Number: 1
Registered: 1-2007
Posted From: 12.191.229.48
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 6:21 am: | |
if its a detroit and not leaking its gotto be good lol |
Richard Bowyer (Drivingmisslazy)
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Username: Drivingmisslazy
Post Number: 1817
Registered: 1-2001
Posted From: 75.108.87.155
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 5:41 pm: | |
Or out of oil! |