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Thomas Connolly (64.58.193.216)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2002 - 10:21 pm: | |
Hi I've long wondered about the history of my 1960 GM coach PD 4104-4624. I would like to know as much history as possible. Anything you can tell me is greatly appreciated. I know everything about her after 1989 when I wrote the check and drove her home, but nothing before. How close to the end of production was mine?
Thanks, Tom |
RJ Long (24.127.8.58)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2002 - 11:17 pm: | |
Tom -
PD4104-4624: Oklahoma Transportation Company, Oklahoma City, OK. Delivered new in March of 1960, fleet number O370. (That's alpha "O" three seven zero. "O" for OTC.)
IIRC, OTC was affilitated with either Greyhound or Trailways, can't remember which. . .
Most line-haul or tour bus companies keep their new coaches about ten years, some more, some less. Greyhound traditionally replaces 10% of their fleet every year, thereby maintaining a 5-year average fleet age.
If OTC followed the industry average, then it was probably sold off around 1970.
Last '04 carried VIN PD4104-5065, delivered in August of 1960.
HTH,
RJ
PD4106-2784
Fresno CA |
Thomas Connolly (64.58.193.97)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2002 - 11:55 pm: | |
Thanks RJ,
That reply was lightning fast and explains the destination sign that had Oklahoma City on it.
Tom |
Kirby (12.94.0.77)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 10:08 pm: | |
Ours is serial #4138 and I believe it was also with Oklahoma Transportation.
Kirby |
RJ Long (24.127.8.58)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 10:57 pm: | |
Close, Kirby.
Roster says PD4104-4138 was originally delivered to Mid-Continent Coaches of Oklahoma City, OK. Delivered new in June of 1959 with fleet number M137.
RJ
PD4106-2784
Fresno CA |
dan (207.144.106.242)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2002 - 9:54 am: | |
Hi RJ, Do you have info on MCI's that were Greyhounds? I have a 1967 MCI5. The serial # is MC5A7035. I would appreciate any info that you may have.
Thanks,
Dan |
RJ Long (24.127.8.58)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2002 - 1:12 pm: | |
Sorry Dan,
I don't have any MCI delivery info.
Have you tried calling MCI?
RJ |
Raymond Smith (204.101.55.53)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2002 - 5:42 pm: | |
R.J. could you please tell me about my coach. It is a PD4104-3632.Thanks a bunch Raymond |
RJ Long (24.127.8.58)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2002 - 8:17 pm: | |
Raymond -
PD4104-3632: Texas, New Mexico & Oklahoma Coaches, Lubbock, Tx. Delivered new in March of 1958, fleet number L541.
RJ |
Ted Calvert (Chowbus) (192.132.225.130)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 18, 2002 - 10:54 pm: | |
RJ:
After reading similar threads many times and now this, I just gotta ask: PD4104-4850? From the wet-wipe packets I found in the outside walls when removing the '70s-looking band-bus conversion and the original crapper, it must have been a Greyhound.
Thanks.
Ted. |
RJ Long (24.127.8.58)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2002 - 2:15 am: | |
Ted -
Yep, you're right about it being an ex-hound. . .
PD4104-4850: Eastern Greyhound Lines, Cleveland, OH. Delivered new in June of 1960, fleet number E3292.
As I've said before, Greyhound has an excellent preventative maintenance program, and usually keep their coaches 10 years. Most likely they sold it at the end of the summer season in 1970.
So you are one of the few who can truthfully say that you own a Greyhound bus!!
RJ |
cgull (209.240.222.32)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2002 - 9:29 am: | |
my bus 4104-4135 it has a big black 9 painter on the top i would lik to now about the bus as my info is limited the previst owner pased away real suden and left no info at all thanks a bunch carl |
RJ Long (24.127.8.58)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2002 - 11:22 am: | |
Carl -
PD4104-4135: Trailways of New England, Washington, DC. Delivered new in June of 1959, fleet number TN956.
RJ |
Luke Bonagura (Lukeatuscoach) (63.24.146.11)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2002 - 1:57 pm: | |
Hi Dan
You inquired about 1967 - MC5-7035.
If the VIN is 7035, it would be a 1972 MC5B, OR
could it be 6035??
If so, it was delivered to Western Greyhound Lines
Bus No 2279 - 11/66.
I HOPE THIS HELPS!!!
LLUKE at US COACH |
doug (199.250.20.136)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2002 - 2:46 pm: | |
wanting any info on PD4501-0274
thanks, doug |
J.L.Vickers (209.34.29.2)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2002 - 8:11 pm: | |
PD-4501-274 K-2224 Pacific Greyhound Lines
P-2224 Western Greyhound Lines
C-1189 Central Southwest Greyhound Lines
1189-Centeral Greyhound Lines
To Grim Coaches Little Rock,Arkansas
This is all the history I have at this time. |
RJ Long (24.127.8.58)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2002 - 8:16 pm: | |
Doug -
All Scenicruisers were a special order built only for Greyhound by GMC. (Several other bus companies tried to buy them during production, but GL/GMC both said sorry, buy a 4104 instead.)
In your case, PD4501-0274 was delivered to Pacific Greyhound, #K2224, in early 1955.
It saw subsequent service as P2224 with Western Greyhound Lines, then as C1189 serving Central-Southwest Greyhound, and ended it's 'Hound career as Central Greyhound Lines' #1189.
Note that all these are various names of the different divisions of Greyhoud Corp., not individual operating companies.
After it's retirement from Greyhound service, it was sold to Grim Coaches of Little Rock, AR.
And now you own it. . .
RJ |
Ted Calvert (Chowbus) (192.132.225.130)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2002 - 8:22 pm: | |
Thanks, RJ. Very appropiate, since now it's licensed "Chowbus" !
Ted. |
Ron Womack (208.14.172.100)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2002 - 6:55 pm: | |
While you are doing the geneology bit, I would like to know about PD4501-231. I bought it in Alabama a couple of years ago. Thanks, Ron |
RJ Long (24.127.8.58)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2002 - 10:40 pm: | |
Ron -
PD4501-231, delivered early in 1955, spent it's career with the following divisions:
#G7249 with Great Lakes Greyhound Lines
#C7249 with Central Greyhound Lines
#E7249 with Eastern Greyhound Lines
#4437 with Eastern Greyhound Lines.
As a side note, Ron, do you have a brother named Roger?
RJ |
RCBishop (128.123.88.3)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2002 - 10:57 pm: | |
RJ....you are remarkable!. Can you give the same info on other makes? (CROWN HIGHWAY sn34811) I think AZ STATE (then college) UNIV was the original owner...I purchased from them. MSO to their title. Just curious if you can verify.
Here's to Ben and Jerry's!!
Regards,
RCB |
RJ Long (24.127.8.58)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2002 - 11:04 pm: | |
Sorry, only GMC Parlors. . .
Finally found B 'n J, eh?
RJ |
Ron Womack (208.14.172.180)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 21, 2002 - 12:04 am: | |
Thanks for the info. Sorry no brother named Roger. I love this board though. I'm about half finished with my conversion and get lots of input from here. |
Mike Eades (Mike14905) (206.62.200.159)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 21, 2002 - 9:05 am: | |
RJ I have 4905-1051 I know CN but I was wondering if you can find anything later as to were the old girl went and what she did when she became old like the rest of us. Mike |
RJ Long (24.127.8.58)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 21, 2002 - 8:28 pm: | |
Mike -
P8M4905A-1051: General Motors Diesel Division (Canadian Subsidiary) delivered it to Carlton Bus Lines of Antrim, Ontario; fleet number 65, new in March of 1975.
No other info available.
RJ |
Mike Eades (Mike14905) (206.62.201.224)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 22, 2002 - 9:31 pm: | |
Thanks RJ Just wondered if it was ever in the hound fleet. Again Thanks Mike |
Mike Eades (Mike14905) (206.62.201.224)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 22, 2002 - 9:35 pm: | |
RJ Ha sanyone put auto brake adjusters on my bus? If so what kind and what part number. Mike |
Busasaurus (204.244.158.98)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2002 - 1:09 pm: | |
If you happen to be an MCI owner in Canada, and wondering about your coach's history, there's a great book called "Greyhound Canada" by Brian Grams and Donald Bain. On the last page the fleet rosters go all the way back to 1928.
Not that there were any MCI's back then, but from 1958 on, the book says that Canada's Greyhound fleet were mostly MCI's.
There are no VIN#s but if the fleet number is anywhere to be found on your coach, you can check it out. There are notations beside some of the coaches indicating who bought the coach after Greyhound sold it off.
Bryan
Vancouver BC |
Steven Gibbs (12.148.43.7)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 1:55 pm: | |
Bryan,
I was not able to locate book on Amazon or Barnes and Noble.
Any other sources I can check? Do you have an ISBN number?
Thanks,
Steve |
Busasaurus (204.244.163.189)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 12:05 am: | |
Steve,
Sorry it took so long for me to get back to you, I've been on vacation for a week, and not near a computer.
The ISBN # is 0-919487-71-8
There's an e-mail address: brmna@brmna.com
and a Website: http://www.brmna.com
-Bryan |