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kristine starr (Kbunnystarr)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 5:38 pm:   

http://www.positiveresources.net/battery_equalizer

ok, another thing that i have an info gap in my head on is equalizing batteries. i know you are supposed to equalize batteries to get the crap off them , it settels to bottom of battery, and that about the end of my knowledge on it. i know that some chargers have an equalizer on them, right? what i have doesnt. i have a heart inverter charger and a 40 amp marine charger. so, this is something else i need to deal with regularly, right? it is somehtign electronic, right? where does it go in respect to how it gets connected/ what does it look like? can some one send a link so i have an idea of what one looks like? and the link i attached, it is some kind of liquid..............does it supposedly do the same thing? and not so much just this brand, but anything like this liquid.....i just randomly picked one off the internet

can you guys fill in some of the gaps for me on this? i want to know how to best take care of them, reg maintenance etc.......

i have a guy locally that is gonna come out thursdy, to start the project of making the slide out for the battery compartment. maybe sometime between now and then i can get some of this other stuff figured out too.
Sean Welsh (Sean)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 12:45 am:   

It's still snake oil, even over on this board...

-Sean
Phil Dumpster (Phil_dumpster)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 2:13 am:   

Actually, it's a chemical compound called EDTA (ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid) that has a number of uses, one of them being to recover sulfated lead acid batteries by combining with the lead sulfate molecules surrounding the battery plates. The resulting crud falls to the bottom of the battery case, leaving (supposedly) clean lead/lead peroxide plate material.

A pulse charger is a far better alternative if the battery resistance isn't too high.
Sean Welsh (Sean)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 11:39 am:   

Phil,

There's no EDTA in that product. I looked up its MSDS. It's cadmium sulfate and cobalt sulfate, and over 98% water.

EDTA is generally added to batteries in powdered form.

We had a long discourse about this on another board.

-Sean
Leslie Robinson (Lesrmc9)
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Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 10:00 am:   

Sean is half correct; EDTA powder MUST be desolved in water first then added to the electrolite of the battery
Sean Welsh (Sean)
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Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 1:24 pm:   

Leslie is correct. What I should have written is that EDTA for battery use is generally available in powdered form.

Powdered EDTA does not dissolve well in battery electrolyte (although it will, given enough time and agitation) so it is better to dissolve it first in a small amount of distilled water.

None of which was my point -- my point was that the product being discussed is not EDTA and contains no EDTA. It is a very weak mixture of cadmium sulfate and cobalt sulfate. While I am sure this product will produce the appearance of having "rejuvenated" the battery it will do nothing to address the underlying problems and the battery is certain to fail again in a relative short period of time.

To name the product "Battery Equaliser" [sic] is misleading -- the effect of this product added to a battery is not anything at all like the effect of an actual equalization process.

Any time a manufacturer refuses to explain how his product works, instead hiding behind words like "Patented Formula," my snake-oil meter goes off. I had to hunt down the MSDS for it in order to find out what was in it.

-Sean

(Message edited by sean on February 19, 2007)

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