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| Jerome Price (Sundancekid45)
Registered Member Username: Sundancekid45 Post Number: 3 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 207.155.103.235 Rating: N/A |
Flew from Amarillo, TX to Atlanta, GA and Picked up our new bus a 1965 01 Eagle it was converted to a coach 30 years ago. I have started removing the inside and getting ready to raise the roof it has a 8v71 and a 4 speed standard I want to change to a 6 speed Alison we are full timers in a fifth wheel this is our first bus. The bus ran fine on our first trip back home a 22 hr drive back to Texas | ||
| steve gaines (Kysteve)
Registered Member Username: Kysteve Post Number: 45 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 74.140.165.225 Rating: N/A |
Welcome aboard yall, and the fun begins....Were just getin started too. Have fun Steve and Deb | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 418 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.126.56 Rating: N/A |
WELCOME!! There is plenty of room on our tree for a few more nuts.  I expect you are going to inspect the body ribs while you are at it. I hope it is in fine condition or has already been repaired.Glad to hear that you came over from the dark side. | ||
| Jeffrey Smith (Greenhornet)
Registered Member Username: Greenhornet Post Number: 10 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 198.136.32.74 Rating: N/A |
If thats yer bus under your name than the PO has done a lot of the hard work already! Are you going to redo the skinning on the sides or patch in a strip 12" long along the lenght of the roof raise? | ||
| Jerome Price (Sundancekid45)
Registered Member Username: Sundancekid45 Post Number: 4 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 207.155.103.235 Rating: N/A |
(I expect you are going to inspect the body ribs while you are at it.) What do you mean by body ribs? Jerome | ||
| Jerome Price (Sundancekid45)
Registered Member Username: Sundancekid45 Post Number: 5 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 207.155.103.235 Rating: N/A |
(If thats yer bus under your name than the PO has done a lot of the hard work already! Are you going to redo the skinning on the sides or patch in a strip 12" long along the lenght of the roof raise?) I'm planning to put in slide outs. then re skin. Also I've got to get the paint off of the aluminum any ideas on the best way? I was thinking of stripper and a pressure washer. Jerome | ||
| Douglas Wotring (Tekebird)
Registered Member Username: Tekebird Post Number: 103 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 71.59.75.212 Rating: N/A |
I th8ink what Johnis refering to is the Structure of the bus.......Eagles are prone to bad rust.....I have seen real sharp ones and you thump the side of the bus with your hand and you can hear the rust falling off inside. Hopefully when the PO did his work he replaced the problem areas. | ||
| Jerome Price (Sundancekid45)
Registered Member Username: Sundancekid45 Post Number: 6 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 207.155.103.235 Rating: N/A |
Started tearing out the inside walls and so for no rust. | ||
| steve gaines (Kysteve)
Registered Member Username: Kysteve Post Number: 47 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 74.140.165.225 Rating: N/A |
Jerome, Im currently working on 4 slideouts for our 69 eagle. Ive got the passenger wall rebuilt now. Perhaps we can compare notes?? How much are you raising the roof? On the paint removal I would suggest aircraft paint striper and a pressure washer. Be prepared for the big mess though. Look for rusty areas around your wheel well areas..............Steve | ||
| Bob greenwood (Bob_greenwood)
Registered Member Username: Bob_greenwood Post Number: 698 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 64.136.49.228 Rating: N/A |
a common myth is you have to remove the paint before you can repaint it... I am over by Boys Ranch in the spring & summers Jerome, | ||
| Jerome Price (Sundancekid45)
Registered Member Username: Sundancekid45 Post Number: 7 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 207.155.103.235 Rating: N/A |
Steve If you have pictures and a floor plan I would love to see it I'm also planning on 4 slideouts, maybe I could plan to fly out and look at what your doing. I'm planning on raising the roof to about 13' 4" or so I'm tall and I want to duct my roof airs. I,m a Mechanical and Electrical contractor by trade and all I work on is Baptist churches all over the US helping them save $$$$ so we are full time in a fith wheel now can't wait to have the bus done Jerome | ||
| steve gaines (Kysteve)
Registered Member Username: Kysteve Post Number: 48 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 74.140.165.225 Rating: N/A |
Jerome, how much research have you done on your slideouts yet? Have you seen dave galeys book on slideouts?.....Steve | ||
| Jerome Price (Sundancekid45)
Registered Member Username: Sundancekid45 Post Number: 8 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 207.155.103.235 Rating: N/A |
Steve, yes I have the book and just starting to read it again Jerome | ||
| steve gaines (Kysteve)
Registered Member Username: Kysteve Post Number: 49 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 74.140.165.225 Rating: N/A |
Jerome, how far are you planning to strip the interior, as I would think it would be difficult to install your slideouts around any interior allready there. Ill give you some insight I didnt have, and that is with my interior and floor bare as it is in my post picture I was pretty much able to cut the whole wall out without any sag anywhere. Important note though, I had to completely cut off my storage bays. because of corrosion (they will be built back with 1/8 box steel though). I was terrified at first to cut anything as for wondering if my bus was going to fold in the middle as an accordian does. Hang in there bud as the fun is just starting. Ill try to get you some updated photos this weekend, as I hope to get some primer on the new wall frame.........Steve | ||
| Jerome Price (Sundancekid45)
Registered Member Username: Sundancekid45 Post Number: 9 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 207.155.103.235 Rating: N/A |
Steve, I am striping it down completly and starting over. Thanks for the info Jerome | ||
| James Stacy (Jimstacy)
Registered Member Username: Jimstacy Post Number: 39 Registered: 1-2001 Posted From: 70.129.210.167 Rating: N/A |
Best stripping method is air blast with baking soda. Will not hurt steel or aluminum; no liquid chemical to hide in a crack or around rivets and come back out after you have painted. Like sand it will get into everything. | ||
| steve gaines (Kysteve)
Registered Member Username: Kysteve Post Number: 50 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 74.140.165.225 Rating: N/A |
Jerome, im just back in from working on the bus and ive been thinking about you saying you wanted to raise your roof to 13/4 and duct your roof airs. Is this to say your putting roof airs above the 13/4?????? Im just wondering what your total height will work out to. Just curious as to whether you are going to get under that 13/6 number or not?.......Just thinking while doing the mindless grinding task on mine.......Steve | ||
| Jerome Price (Sundancekid45)
Registered Member Username: Sundancekid45 Post Number: 10 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 207.155.103.235 Rating: N/A |
Steve, total of 13' 4" I haven't measured to see how much It will be, I need at least another 10" if I can get that much | ||
| steve gaines (Kysteve)
Registered Member Username: Kysteve Post Number: 52 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 74.140.165.225 Rating: N/A |
jerome, My post pic to the left is a right after I raised my roof. Notice the primer on the window mullions. That is a 12" raise. I pushed the boundry here and still can get 14" air above that, even though Im leaning toward bay air. I though for me, I needed the 12 at least to get the window headers up high enough so as to not hit my head every time I sit on the couch in the slideout. Keep in mind you will loose 5-6 inches from the bottom of your window header for the new thicker header, weather stripping, and the actual slideout itself. I also raised the winsheild with the roof so as I could raise my drivers seat and dash to a "high driver" and get the floor the same level there. Just sharing thoughts.........Steve | ||
| Jerome Price (Sundancekid45)
Registered Member Username: Sundancekid45 Post Number: 11 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 207.155.103.235 Rating: N/A |
Steve, I thought about raising the drivers area but I thought it might be to much trouble I haven't look to see what it will take. What type of slideout mechanisms are you using to push and pull your slideout. Jerome | ||
| steve gaines (Kysteve)
Registered Member Username: Kysteve Post Number: 53 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 74.140.165.225 Rating: N/A |
Jerome, Im having a machinist build my slideouts with support bearings as outlined in dave's book. I think if I can pull on them by hand and get them out, it only means there would be little to no wear on my actuators. Im still deciding on the actuators though, Im not sure now whether I want electric or hydrolic. I know hydrolic seems logical but Im thinking of the senario of have to start the bus and get the fluid moving as opposed to just flipping the switch and not having to start the main engine until ready to go. If I go hydrolic it will be from hwh, run off my leveling system. Electric would most likly be like from an electric screw jack, the kind used to raise and lower a pull camper toung. Ive found you can be as creative here as you want or need, you just have to match the solution with the problem to best suit your abilities. Well Ive bored all long enough, back to work on the bus...........Steve | ||
| steve gaines (Kysteve)
Registered Member Username: Kysteve Post Number: 54 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 74.140.165.225 Rating: N/A |
Oh yea Jerome, dont worry, if you can handle doin the slidouts, you wont have any trouble with raising the drivers area. One thing to remember here, is how close do you want your copilot. If you dont want a side seat driver, you can get her to the back of the bus now....lol.....just kidding all yall side seat drivers....lol.....waapp....ouch......opps.....all jokes aside though have your copilot sit in the front seat of the first row of passenger seats and see if she likes the view out the front. Yea I know, mine didnt either. So for me it was raise the driver and windshield or put in a taller winshield for her sight seeing vision. Just our way though, .........Steve and Deb........Ouch......man those fryin pans hurt...... (Message edited by kysteve on February 17, 2007) | ||
| Jerome Price (Sundancekid45)
Registered Member Username: Sundancekid45 Post Number: 12 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 207.155.103.235 Rating: N/A |
Steve, well I got all of the kitchen and bathroom cabinets and fixtures out today have one more wall and it will be wide open. I will order the new roof caps soon. Kathy is drawing floor plans that is the hardest part to figure out what we want. We are going to use one of the bays for a bedroom for the kids. Jerome | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 425 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.126.56 Rating: N/A |
When you say wall...do you mean plywood bare walls? If it was mine, I'd remove the inside wall material and inspect the framing that the outside siding is riveted to, especially around and to the rear of the rear wheels. Better to be sure now than sorry later. Maybe you are at this point now. If it ends up being all good, you could think about foaming it before you start the conversion. | ||
| steve gaines (Kysteve)
Registered Member Username: Kysteve Post Number: 55 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 74.140.165.225 Rating: N/A |
Jerome, I see your going to make a bay bedroom. Gettin down to it from inside might pose a bit of a challenge with your slideouts if your like most and use the rear bay for your holding tanks. Just have to see how your layout works when you get the floor up and can see what you got to work with.......Steve | ||
| steve gaines (Kysteve)
Registered Member Username: Kysteve Post Number: 56 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 74.140.165.225 Rating: N/A |
John, catch up, Jerome is doing 4 slideouts too. Cant rebuild the foundation with the house sitin on it........lol........Steve |