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Doyle Gaither (Texasborderdude)
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 8:17 pm:   

Saw this same item at Pep Boys for 7.99/8.99 depending on size of drain plug:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FRAM-SURE-DRAIN-OIL-CHANGE-PLUG-SD-1-2-3-4-YOU-GET-2_W0QQit emZ290094630229QQcategoryZ111112QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Anyone know the specs on the DD 8V71N oil drain plug?

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Chuck Lott (Chuckmc8)
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 8:20 pm:   

It was 1" pipe plug on mine
Douglas Wotring (Tekebird)
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 8:30 pm:   

any truck parts place will have a much more professional quick drain fitting for only a bit more
Doyle Gaither (Texasborderdude)
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 8:31 pm:   

My drain looks smaller than 1" and these are the sizes it comes in. Anybody know?
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ED Hackenbruch (Shadowman)
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Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 12:59 am:   

A year ago i put a Fumoto drain valve on my Wagoneer and liked it so much i got one for my 5A with an 8V71. Cost is around $26. Don't remember the # but it was either the T-203 or the T-209 ( i think it was the T-203)......don't need the ones with the nipple on them. My old drain plug was 1". Their website is www.fumotovalve.com
Doyle Gaither (Texasborderdude)
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Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 2:16 am:   

Ed... thanks! Checked the Fumoto web site. Their chart sez the Series 71 (they call a small engine) uses the T202 : size NPT 1/2-14 does that seem reasonable? Is the 1" the wrench size or the thread?



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Jim G. - RTS (Jimgohio)
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Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 3:14 am:   

I trust and use the Fumoto valves. I have been warned about using cheeper drain valves which can be expensive if they cause you to lose an engine. Jim G. - 1979 RTS-II
ED Hackenbruch (Shadowman)
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Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 12:35 am:   

The 1" is the thread diameter. Even though the charts says series 71 uses the T202,(npt 1/2-14)i don't think that is the right one....i think you will have to call them to find out for sure.
ED Hackenbruch (Shadowman)
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Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 12:55 am:   

It just occured to me that the valves may have a number stamped on them. If i remember i will crawl underneath tomorrow and see if i can find one.
Fred MacIsaac (Bassfid)
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Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 10:08 am:   

"NPT" or "NPS" sizes are deceptive. Pipe sizes do not refer to any physical dimensions. The outside diameter of a pipe or fitting must be measured and compared to a table for size identification. A 3/4" NPT pipe thread has an outside diameter - OD - of 1.050 inches.

Each thread size has a defined number of threads per inch - TPI, or pitch. The 3/4" NPT pipe thread has 14 threads per inch. Both the TPI and OD of the thread are required for positive identification of thread size because more than one size have the same TPI.
NPT - American Standard Pipe Thread Taper 1)
Pipe Size
(inches) Threads per Inch
TPI - pitch Outside Diameter
OD
(inches)
1/16" 27 0.313"
1/8" 27 0.405"
1/4" 18 0.540"
3/8" 18 0.675"
1/2" 14 0.840"
3/4" 14 1.050"
1" 11-1/2 1.315"
1-1/4" 11-1/2 1.660"
1-1/2" 11-1/2 1.900"
etc. etc.


I would tend to believe that if pipe threads were used on any drain, NPS (National Pipe Straight) size would be used with a sealing ring, or gasket
ED Hackenbruch (Shadowman)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 12:31 am:   

Well i finally remembered to crawl under the bus today and check for a number. The one on my plug is the T-201.
Doyle Gaither (Texasborderdude)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 2:47 pm:   

Ed.... muchas gracias!

dg
John Zabrocki (John_z)
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 10:11 am:   

I must be missing something here. I figure i will be changing the oil once a year. It is not a job i can do in my nice clothes anyway. I still have to get under there with the drain pails. So what is the big deal about removing a drain plug?
Doyle Gaither (Texasborderdude)
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 12:43 pm:   

Get some used 1 gal oil jugs. Turn the spigot on/off to fill each one without messing up the ground. To me it's worth the $30 and disposal is MUCH easier.... most all auto parts stores will take 1 gal jugs, but not the 5 gal pail or other containers. Thanks anyway!

dg
ED Hackenbruch (Shadowman)
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 12:25 am:   

Same for me, one hell of lot less mess and since i am fulltiming, the places where i stay tend to frown on messy oil changes on their property. This makes for the cleanest oil changes i have ever done on anything i have ever owned.
john w. roan (Chessie4905)
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 6:42 pm:   

I hope that you have the screw on throwaway filter option, as many still have the can you remove and replace the element which is a messy job.Other than that, the setup you have is great for people that don't have a garage, shop, or someone to do it for them.You do all of your greasing regularly also?
Doyle Gaither (Texasborderdude)
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 11:31 pm:   

Do these hands look like they've been under a bus?

LEFTRIGHT

2-20 Ton Air/Hydraulic Jacks (with Stands)...$236.00
100ea straight Zerk fittings and 50ea 90* Zerk Fittings.... $85.00
3ea 4lb Tubs of Pennzoil Chassis Lube $24.00

Realizing the drain hole with NO PLUG in it is the bellhousing not the diffie..... PRICELESS!
john w. roan (Chessie4905)
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Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 9:05 pm:   

Mine look that way after I change my oil also, even without the sure drain...I started using those blue nitrile gloves about 5 years ago, when I work on the coaches or cars. Wouldn't do without them now.You know, I get those skin't marks on my knuckles at times also...could we be related? You can't be too much of a mechanic; I don't see any dark purple spots on any of your fingernails.:-)
Doyle Gaither (Texasborderdude)
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Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 9:51 pm:   

John, yeah... it's amazing. I've heard all my life that I'm just to damn "thin skinned!" Now I understand. I just found the blue nitrile's at Harbor Freight today... $7.99 for 100 disposable gloves. I'm going back and am going to buy a case! My hands sweat like hell in 'em... butt I put some hand lotion on just before the golves and I should be healed in no time! hehehe!

dg

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