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mark (Coolbus)
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Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 7:40 pm:   

Where I live, the roads are not salted in the winter, and rust is not that much of an issue.

Seems like I have heard that busses from this part of the country are more prone to rust. True?

Is it from the roads being salted in the winter?

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Mark
John MC9 (John_mc9)
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Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 8:27 pm:   

"....I have heard that busses from this part of the country are more prone to rust...."

Buses can be rusty critters, regardless of the location they are being sold at.
mark (Coolbus)
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Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 8:40 pm:   

good point, John

I will have to have in inspected by an independent mechanic.

That said, is it the salt that was used where the bus was in commercial use that is the issue?

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mark
James Robinson (Jjrbus)
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Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 9:44 pm:   

My 795C spent its first 10 years in Saudi Arabia, no rust problems there. Then the next 10 in the state of washington. The bus was almost rust and corrosion free. Except under the d windows. Seems that all MCI's rust there. Also the rearmost roof frame member was rusty. It appeared that moisture wicked in through the rear lights and was held in place by the insulation.
John MC9 (John_mc9)
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Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 10:12 pm:   

Mark -

An example.... Our old Winnebago RV spent most of it's life
in New England.... When I bought it, it didn't have a speck of rust.
Within a year of living on Florida (we full-timed in it, before buying
another make/model), the undercarriage became a total rusted mess...
The brake lines rusted through and had to be totally replaced.

Road salt isn't the only worry, sea salt is as bad, but rain and water
seepage doesn't have to be salty to do damage; all it has to do is
sit sit captured inside a metal space for some time...

Marker lights leak, windshield seals leak, window seals can leak,
and these buses were frequently hosed out at the end of trips.
(can't always find a dog to get under the seats after a vomit incident)
Water can get into areas you'd least expect, and for reasons that
only imagination can provide....

These old buses have been used (and abused) in all sorts of climates,
and most may have seen many, many miles far away from the area it's
finally being sold at. I wouldn't worry about where it's being marketed,
or even where it's been before.... I'd just do a thorough inspection.



Eh?
mark (Coolbus)
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Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 11:42 pm:   

HAR HAR HAR!

(can't always find a dog to get under the seats after a vomit incident)
Frank Allen (Frank66)
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Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 12:09 pm:   

Michigan salts there roads, id be cautious
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Duane Bratvold (Connieandduane)
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Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 12:22 pm:   

I run a mechanic shop for an auto Auction. Today I have my crew in doing brakes on 06 and 07 Gm cars and SUV's that were shiped here to Washington state from Michigan. These cars have less that 30k on them and the brake pads and Rotors look like they came off a car with 100K Some of them have the semi- metalic brake pads rusted solid to the rotors. Be cautious, and have someone look it over close.
Gus Causbie (Gusc)
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Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 11:56 pm:   

Duane,

Sounds like you got some flood cars, lots of floods this spring all over the upper mid-west.
Simon Ayriss (Design_dog)
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Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 6:28 am:   

I'll take a West Coast bus over an East Coast anyday. But thats just me. Has nothing to do with the people just buses.
That being said I think it does matter where it comes from but like anything, such as a car, who owned it before, how much it was driven, if its been sitting, who babied it or not, matters too.

Just want to point out. as John said ...

'Marker lights leak, windshield seals leak, window seals can leak,'

Most people check the undercarriage, etc., but you have to look carefully for small signs of marker light and window seal leaks as well for upper carriage. Also keep your eye open for squeaky rotted floor. And front window seals.
Even though less major check upper.

If I'm buyin, I'm lookin underneath the seats and then some. Check everywhere.

I'd just do a thorough inspection is good advice.
Larry D Baker (Lbaker4106)
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Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 8:58 am:   

I have always lived in Michigan and it is called Michigan cancer. We use salt on the roads and everything rusts bad. Very few floods effect these vehicles. Replaced a rear rotor the other day on a car that had set for 3 months and it was totally destroyed with rust. Larry 4106
John MC9 (John_mc9)
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Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 10:48 am:   

With a very large percentage of Florida's visitors (and retirees) coming
from Michigan to settle in Florida, I guess I wouldn't buy a vehicle
from down here, either....






(how's that for being subtle?)
Jack Conrad (Jackconrad)
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Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 2:26 pm:   

With the way people move all over this country and buses (by the time we get them) have had numerous owners living everywhere it is really difficult to know where the buses were operated except by the last owner. Best bet is a through inspection. Jack

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