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Simon Ayriss (Design_dog)
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Post Number: 33
Registered: 3-2007
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 1:27 am:   

Does someone know where I can find any help, a photo or two, or a diagram on a basic bus plumbing set up.
It's for a MC8.
I want to start to figure out plumbing with emphasis on simplicity and zero problems.
I want to get a good fresh water pump and a good hot water heater (probably just propane.)
bathroom will be in the common three quarter mark in back of bus.
most put plumbing I believe in the back bay?

thanks in advance.
John MC9 (John_mc9)
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Post Number: 354
Registered: 7-2006
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 2:15 am:   

Re:
"Does someone know where I can find any help, a photo or two,
or a diagram on a basic bus plumbing set up. It's for a MC8. "


It could just as well be for a Boeing 707, Simon!

The &*$^% has to run downhill, and the fresh water uses a pump..

Just make sure you drill a 1/4" hole (or less), where you're about
to place a toilet, sink, etc., and poke a long, identifiable wire through
the hole. Then go into the bays, and see where the wire is poking
through. You can then decide if it's the best location for what you
desire to install....

Plumbing (or wiring) a bus, isn't much different than any conventional
home. With electrical, the grounding/bonding is slightly different. But
the plumbing remains the same. You'll need proper venting at the drains,
to insure the waste goes down. You'll need the proper angle of discharge
for the waste, to allow it to go into the tank...

Pick up any plumbing book at Home Depot or Lowes, and it'll point you
in the right direction.
James Robinson (Jjrbus)
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Post Number: 64
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 8:34 am:   

Only my personal experience. I would find people with conversions, a rally would be excellent for this. Take a camera, ask questions, take pictures. What seems like a simple thing can be really complicated.
Most people build fair weather coaches.If you live or plan to visit a friged area it is a good idea to slope supply lines to aid in draining, its a good idea anyway. How about heated holding tanks? Do you want a 3 or 4 inch access to your blackwater tank?
Will you want a black and grey tank, or a mixed tank with a greywater bypass?
Do you want to be able to dump from both sides of the coach or just one side? It is easy and costs nothing when ordering tanks and doing layout to make provisions for a macerator pump. A bit more to it than a house.
If you cannot find a rally at least go look at some RV's HTH
Don Evans (Doninwa)
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Post Number: 35
Registered: 1-2007
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 12:04 pm:   

Something you want to consider in the basic layout. If you can, keep the bathroom fixtures as close to the kitchen fixtures as possible with the the hot water tank centrally located. You waste less water waiting for hot water to reach the fixture. Our first bus, already converted when we bought it, had the hot water tank in the very rear and it took a lot of water to get hot to the kitchen sink which was forward more than normal.

I would use a hot water tank that has a heat exchanger loop even if you don't use it initially.
Definitely hook it up to the engine (free heat) and maybe in the future an auxiliary diesel boiler.

Years ago I gave up using RV antifreeze in RVs and boats. I just blow out the lines and have had zero problems. No adding antifreeze and then draining it in the spring. No hot water tank bypass. Just blow it out in the fall and it's ready to fill and go.
Ray Drummond (Ray_d)
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Registered: 4-2006
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 12:21 pm:   

http://www.winnebagoind.com/diagram/Plumbing.htm

Here is a link to some plumbing diagrams, they have electrical plans as well.
Len Silva (Lsilva)
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Post Number: 120
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 2:28 pm:   

I would consider using a seperate home run from each fixture to a manifold with individual shut-offs. Easy to isolate a problem.

Len
ChuckMC9 (Chucks)
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 3:56 pm:   

"I would consider using a seperate home run from each fixture to a manifold with individual shut-offs. Easy to isolate a problem."

Dat's what I did, but ol' JMC9 tole me my original manifold design looked like Rube Goldberg! :-)

I redid it. Just for him.

But never showed him the final version.

And I ain't gonna either. LOL


(Message edited by chucks on June 04, 2007)
John MC9 (John_mc9)
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 7:00 pm:   

pipes.jpg
Jerry Campbell (Jerrync)
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Post Number: 76
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 7:02 pm:   

I used a Vanguard and love it and used pix lines EEEEEEZZZZZZZ to do
ChuckMC9 (Chucks)
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 7:10 pm:   

Masters of Inefficiency

2007's winners of the regional Rube Goldberg Machine Contest at Purdue University celebrate after their contraption beat out others to win top spot. The massive device, which successfully poured a single glass of orange juice, was assembled by Michael Stumpf (left), Greg Bauman (center) and Drew Wischer (right). The lads spent 3,000 hours making the machine as inefficient as possible.

http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mods/multimedia/2007/05/gallery_rube
John MC9 (John_mc9)
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Post Number: 356
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 7:56 pm:   

Chuck -

Har de har har.... !!

Man... gotta' meetcha', one oh dese dayz.


(btw....yer bus is lookin' gooooood, ma'man!)
airless in Mississippi (Airless_in_mississippi)
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Post Number: 144
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Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 1:10 pm:   

John How comes you come and take a pic of my plumbing and didnt even bother to say hey>??
John MC9 (John_mc9)
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Post Number: 357
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Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 6:02 pm:   

My Doc says:

"Seen one guy's plumbing; seen 'em all"



(HAR)

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