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| norcal kyle (Kylexisxrad)
Registered Member Username: Kylexisxrad Post Number: 147 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 216.220.216.165 Rating: N/A |
looks like they finally got a bus out and finished! well, I'm not sure if this one is complete or just a mockup for pictures, but either way, its a nice change from the grainy warehouse pics they had. http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/2932248 honestly, I don't like it so far, but it might grow on me(not that I even have the $$ for one anyway, ha). that paint job just kills me though. maybe someone should call and remind them its an Eagle, not a Prevo.  kyle in norcal 1980 Eagle 10 #30223 | ||
| captain ron (Captain_ron)
Registered Member Username: Captain_ron Post Number: 710 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 75.204.89.24 Rating: N/A |
I think it will grow on me too. The paint scheme seems a little too feminine for me, tribal flames would be cool. Don't care for the square corners but overall I think it's pretty nice. | ||
| Dick Bell (Richardkan)
Registered Member Username: Richardkan Post Number: 47 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 152.163.100.13 Rating: N/A |
As I understand, this one is already sold and is being shipped as a shell to a converter to finish out for an undisclosed entertainer. Note the five foot tall front glass. We found out that entertainers don't like to stoop over to see down the road so Eagle has been able to accomodate them. I think that Craig would like nothing better than to have a Prevost be compared to the Eagle 25. | ||
| Douglas Wotring (Tekebird)
Registered Member Username: Tekebird Post Number: 188 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 71.59.75.212 Rating: N/A |
paint job does not bother me.......still looks like a Mockup...and Butt Ungly Too Boot. nothing like a big box.......Although I am not an Eagle fan, they used to have some styling...this things looks nare better than most high end Sticks and staples. Curious why the new owner is Undisclosed.......yet another poor business move.......the first one should be publicised out the ying yang.......it would not cost or hurt the New owner unless it is all BS. | ||
| H3-40 (Ace)
Registered Member Username: Ace Post Number: 543 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 70.221.20.197 Rating: N/A |
Wow Doug, that's pretty harsh don't you think? What exactly have YOU done to impress the bus community? I see in your pics a GM and MCI. Where's your Eagle that makes you an authority on them at? Give the guy a break will you? He's done more than anyone else has to bring back the Eagle whether it LOOKS like you think it should or not! Having parts alone is a giant step for the Eagle owners! Geez... another deleted post! Ace | ||
| Douglas Wotring (Tekebird)
Registered Member Username: Tekebird Post Number: 189 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 71.59.75.212 Rating: N/A |
Gee Ace, Just stating my opinion...never said I did anything for the bus community or to bring the Eagle Back. from the past post about them seems alot of people share my feelings on the look or design. Also never stated to be an Eagle Authority although I have my fare share of exposure to them......and I did like the eagle up through the 10. Although you may not agree with my blunt critique, that is the nice thing about public forums and is the place to post such things. Once again we will see where it goes from here. Note: From my looks at the photos...looks to be the same one in the factory shots but in paint. Still no windshield and still no door latches unless they are some internal electronic gizmo......which may be the case. Huge style points loss using round headlights on a square box. I think I know what his intention was....but it doesn't work on any level that I can see. | ||
| marvin pack (Gomer)
Registered Member Username: Gomer Post Number: 31 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 76.4.142.242 Rating: N/A |
well here is my 2 cents worth. I would like to see the price first and make sure my hospital insurance is paid in full.next round headlights? Na! The paint is ok what I don't like is the front. That ain't an eagle But I can't afford it anyway probably | ||
| Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
Registered Member Username: Luvrbus Post Number: 41 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 74.33.61.139 Rating: N/A |
doug,the bus does have alot of electronics including the neat marker lites but its a total different bus from the 1-20 models but please give the man a brake | ||
| James Stacy (Jimstacy)
Registered Member Username: Jimstacy Post Number: 49 Registered: 1-2001 Posted From: 75.40.230.62 Rating: N/A |
It looks like the drive axle is back in the middle. Should help the turning radius. This is a small operation apparently working very slowly. You have got to admire his effort in a very competitive business. When I get back to Brownsville in November, I'll stop by again and see how they are coming. Jim Stacy | ||
| Ron Walker (Prevost82)
Registered Member Username: Prevost82 Post Number: 302 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 208.181.210.47 Rating: N/A |
I agree James .. it's a small operation and that's why it has to be better than Prevost. Most converter don't want to buy a coach that the manufacture can't support long term, go broke again. IMHO the fit and finish is not 1st class. If you stuck a new Prevo XL11 beside it you would see the difference. | ||
| norcal kyle (Kylexisxrad)
Registered Member Username: Kylexisxrad Post Number: 148 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 216.220.216.161 Rating: N/A |
I know, I started the post, but here's my extra $0.01: awe may not all appreciate blunt criticism, but I can see where doug is coming from. it looks like.....well....a box. no denying it. I've been a supporter of craig and the crew since the website first went up, but I can't say I agree with the design choice. it seems like its trying too hard to look like a prevost XLII. not that the new Prevos aren't pretty, but the body of an Eagle is what gives it its individuality. all you gotta do is show me the first 3 feet of a bus and ill tell you if its an Eagle. but then again I'm not the one w/ the cajones to re-introduce a classic and beloved company into a marketplace along with companies as dominant as Prevost and MCI..... and doug, thank you so much for siding with me on the headlights. they look great on an '04, but really odd on a bus with mostly vertical lines... kyle in norcal | ||
| norcal kyle (Kylexisxrad)
Registered Member Username: Kylexisxrad Post Number: 149 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 216.220.216.161 Rating: N/A |
fwiw I called them today asking, and they said this bus has the powertrain installed(CAT w/ an Eaton Autoshift) but they have yet to install the wiring harness' so it hasn't run as of yet. they just towed it out of the warehouse for pictures. | ||
| Gus Causbie (Gusc)
Registered Member Username: Gusc Post Number: 366 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 63.97.117.48 Rating: N/A |
That paint job is an attempt to hide the fact that it is a huge slab sided box, just like most big S&S you see on the road. The SS bottom helps a lot, too bad it doesn't go higher. | ||
| steve gaines (Kysteve)
Registered Member Username: Kysteve Post Number: 107 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 74.140.165.225 Rating: N/A |
hummmmmm, I'll bet Henry Fords first car got this kinda critisizum too!!!!!! | ||
| Douglas Wotring (Tekebird)
Registered Member Username: Tekebird Post Number: 190 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 71.59.75.212 Rating: N/A |
No Dash in it either Thanks for supporting my criticism, I am not putting the guy down for his attempts, but he is not saving the eagle company, he created a new one using Eagle suspension and Namesake. Otherwise he would have names it Eagle. The thing just does not look thought out from the design aspect. with that said I'd be happy to give you my critisism of any number of vehicles that have been on the market or are on the market..... Don't get your panties in a wad......it happens every day in car and motorcycle magazines and those guys pay for advertising in magazines that shoot "insults" at their product.........but they still sell them. If craig is smart he will have another of the trade magazines out there ASAP they get the thing operating....so it can be reviewed properly. | ||
| Brian Elfert (Belfert)
Registered Member Username: Belfert Post Number: 35 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 132.148.80.215 Rating: N/A |
Yes, it doesn't look the best, but a straight sided coach is easiest to do a conversion with. A lot of coaches don't have straight sides which makes a conversion more difficult. My understanding is that passenger coaches, if any, that Silver Eagle builds will be the same as the classic Eagles. They have the original molds and such for the Eagles. Supposedly they can skip having the buses crash tested by using the original design. The shells don't need to be crash tested so they don't need to use the original design. Brian Elfert | ||
| Austin Scott Davis (Zimtok)
Registered Member Username: Zimtok Post Number: 130 Registered: 9-2006 Posted From: 216.37.73.226 Rating: N/A |
That thing is HUGE. The wheels look undersized for the vehicle. I'm sure it is very functional but it lacks any kind of style. . | ||
| RJ Long (Rjlong)
Registered Member Username: Rjlong Post Number: 1247 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 67.181.189.94 Rating: N/A |
I, too, commend Craig and his crew for their efforts. The Eagle was always the favorite entertainer coach due to it's Torsilastic suspension, so it's nice to see that feature back on the market. As for the styling, let me share an analogy: Honda Odessey, Toyota Sienna, Dodge Caravan - all mini-vans, yet they all look different. So it is with MCI, Prevost and now Eagle - they're all buses, yet they all look different. I think one of the things that skews the views of this new coach is the fact that it's got a raised roofline, which throws the proportions off slightly. Same thing happens to an MC-9 when you raise the roof, and nobody seems to squabble about those. Personally, I'll reserve judgment until I see the completed product. FWIW & HTH. . . (Message edited by rjlong on June 05, 2007) | ||
| niles steckbauer (Niles500)
Registered Member Username: Niles500 Post Number: 736 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.91.107.56 Rating: N/A |
How do I get in the door or the bays and where's the ventilation for the engine compartment ????????? | ||
| Douglas Wotring (Tekebird)
Registered Member Username: Tekebird Post Number: 192 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 71.59.75.212 Rating: N/A |
Niles that is probably propriatary....LOL Painted uncompleted prototype is the answer. also noted there is no windsield, no dash and no internal latching mechanism for the bays. I wouls suspect pictures with more detail were not shared on purpose There are photos around of several prototype buses, GM and Mack come to mind...that look to be real units.....some of them are mock ups so well done one can not tell from the photo it is a mockup...the fact that it was a mockup is only known because of the people who were there or documentation. Ones that come to mind are the GM PD 4105 and the Mack MV-620. The Mack Mock up was one sided and only had two rows of interior seats..... | ||
| Douglas Wotring (Tekebird)
Registered Member Username: Tekebird Post Number: 193 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 71.59.75.212 Rating: N/A |
Additiaonlly no Fuel Filler door, No Fuel Tank, No Rear Bumper ( thus no clear rear shot) NO A/C but that is a Entertainer shell thing. | ||
| Jerry Campbell (Jerrync)
Registered Member Username: Jerrync Post Number: 79 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 69.132.150.103 Rating: N/A |
man this thing has got some d@m big windows | ||
| niles steckbauer (Niles500)
Registered Member Username: Niles500 Post Number: 737 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.91.107.56 Rating: N/A |
"Additiaonlly no Fuel Filler door, No Fuel Tank," Doesn't need fuel - it runs on dreams and sunshine :-) |