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Bruce Henderson (Oonrahnjay)
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Username: Oonrahnjay
Post Number: 143
Registered: 8-2004
Posted From: 69.143.43.3
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 2:26 am: | |
__. I was told by "somebody who says that he knows" that it would be a good idea to use "grey water" to flush the toilet with. That way "you use the water twice plus you have the soap washing the toilet". This sounds very unwise to me. Sure "black water" is what everyone's idea of sewage is but then again grey water is pretty bad stuff, too.
__. Any thoughts on why this would be a bad idea (or a good one)?
Thanks, BH, NC USA |
Jerry Liebler (Jerry_liebler)
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Username: Jerry_liebler
Post Number: 254
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 71.31.1.101
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 8:37 am: | |
Not a very practicle idea. It would require a seperate additional gray water pump, wiring etc all for very modest water savings. With a modern rv toilet it would save maybe a quart per flush. A much better way to save, probably more, water, that most neglect, is to arrange a hot water return to the fresh tank so the water used to heat the pipes isn't wasted.
Regards
Jerry 4107 1120 |
David Hartley (Drdave)
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Username: Drdave
Post Number: 787
Registered: 5-2005
Posted From: 97.101.2.69
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 8:46 am: | |
Using Grey water is a nice idea, Too bad the drawbacks outweigh the savings.
To use grey water, You would almost need to have a separate pump and filter system to clean it up enough to run through the toilet flush system.
Grey water usually contains impurities like soap, suspended particles and general grunge. (that's why it's called GREY water! )
You would need a very fine filter between the tank and pump and more filtering for odor control along with the necessary plumbing. That's not to say someone isn't doing it or that it can't be done. I even tried it a couple of different ways.
The toilet in my bus would not tolerate the impurities due to the type of electronically controlled flush system. The valves would clog up and if they didn't then the ring around the bowl would make me more nuts that I already am.
I do however use the grey water to flush out the black tank whenever possible. It saves using good water. |
John MC9 (John_mc9)
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Username: John_mc9
Post Number: 407
Registered: 7-2006
Posted From: 68.205.165.5
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 9:03 am: | |
Bruce -
To further elaborate on/with what the Doc said.........
Are you sure the bloke wasn't talking about using the grey water
to wash out the black water (toilet) tank (and hose)?
While I seriously doubt anyone would want the smelly grey water
to hang around any longer then necessary (like to wash a toilet
bowl), most every RVr I know uses the grey to rinse the hoses.
It's customary to dump the black tank first, followed with the
dumping of the grey.
It would certainly make good sense for any conversions, to
plumb the grey tank into the black, to allow rinsing of the black
tank using the grey waste-water..... |
Bruce Henderson (Oonrahnjay)
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Username: Oonrahnjay
Post Number: 144
Registered: 8-2004
Posted From: 69.143.43.3
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 9:26 am: | |
Thanks to all for your info. It agrees with my first impulse.
John MC9 said "Are you sure the bloke wasn't talking about using the grey water to wash out the black water (toilet) tank (and hose)?"
__. Yes, absolutely sure. My plan is to use the grey to wash out the black tank and hose - his assertation was that grey could be used to flush the toilet - and that the soap in the grey would help clean the toilet. As Doc mentioned about the soap and impurities damaging his toilet, that's exactly what I had feared, too.
__. OK, while we're here, anybody have strong feelings about type or brand name of toilet to use? |
John MC9 (John_mc9)
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Post Number: 408
Registered: 7-2006
Posted From: 66.217.107.71
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 11:05 am: | |
Sealand Porcelain
Rv toilets use the minimum amount of water. |
David Hartley (Drdave)
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Username: Drdave
Post Number: 788
Registered: 5-2005
Posted From: 97.101.2.69
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 2:29 pm: | |
Get a toilet that your butt fits....
Many of the cheap ones are so small that its hard to stay upright.
I bought a Thetford Aria which is all china and MAN size too! It's electronic flush and works nice. Looks great too.... |
James Stacy (Jimstacy)
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Username: Jimstacy
Post Number: 64
Registered: 1-2001
Posted From: 75.40.247.184
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 10:41 pm: | |
China units are much easier to keep clean than plastic. Taller stools are more comfortable for (older) adults. That said, keep it simple.
I knew a guy whose $900,000 Country Coach had a stool (Royal Flush, honest) that would only work with compressed air! It lost all air 2 hours after the engine was shut down. His neighbors didn't like him getting air up at 3 AM to take care of a prostrate problem.
This was the same coach that had a $12,000 option called a Smart Wheel. Fourty two pushbuttons in the hub of the steering wheel. Everything you needed to drive the coach was there, wipers, lights, horn, directionals, etc. How you were supposed to hit the right button while turning a corner, I don't know. It didn't matter because one day everything in the Smart Wheel quit working. What a pain.
Simple is good.
Jim Stacy |