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| WILLIAM D. WATKINS (Sivrtnge2)
Registered Member Username: Sivrtnge2 Post Number: 82 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 70.11.137.157 Rating: N/A |
Do anyone know (if any) the pros and cons of using lucas in a 2 stroke??? I know it does wonders in a c15 and a series 60!!! Never tried it in a "screaming jimmy" before. | ||
| Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
Registered Member Username: Luvrbus Post Number: 56 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 74.33.37.119 Rating: N/A |
Bill,i have been told by a lot of people not to use Lucas in a two stroke but know of people that do and like it and never had a problem guess you could e mail Lucas and find out for sure | ||
| RJmule (Rjmule)
Registered Member Username: Rjmule Post Number: 106 Registered: 2-2007 Posted From: 24.152.156.145 Rating: N/A |
not sure if it was Gusthebus but read some ones statement that they swear by it along with another additive. I will be doing the same in a few days, cheers and good luck to you. Randall | ||
| David Hartley (Drdave)
Registered Member Username: Drdave Post Number: 791 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 97.101.2.69 Rating: N/A |
I use Lucas and Slick-50 combination. I have never had a problem, In Fact I have an Isuzu Diesel truck that was ran without water 3 times with no apparent engine damage. It was treated with Lucas and Slick 50 from the time the engine was replaced in 2000 after a complete meltdown, That was about 350,000 miles ago. The radiator hoses blew and the driver continued on to his deliveries 3 times. It never siezed and does not smoke now 2 years after the last hose was fixed. I bought the truck and only had to replace the water pump due to a leaking seal. I have used the combo in Detroits for over 10 years and have not had a wear or dry start problem ever since. I once added Lucas to a power steering system and made the steering better on one Flxible that I had. 1-Gallon of Lucas Oil additive, 3-quarts(bottles) of Slick-50 Hi-Mileage additive. Per oil change. Now everything at least gets Slick 50 immediately, Even the weedeater.. Mixed a little in the gas. On Model Airplane engines a buddy of mine uses a squirt of Tri-Flow to condition the engines and said they last for hundreds of hours between rebuilds versus a few hours untreated. Tri-Flow is the teflon in a spray can. same stuff as Slick 50. Many will tell you NO... Use your own judgement. It works for me and the Big eared Mouse on their rides. Grease, Lube and Oil Additive. Reduces friction, saves energy and helps bearings and parts last longer. | ||
| Justin Griffith (Justin25taylor)
Registered Member Username: Justin25taylor Post Number: 23 Registered: 4-2007 Posted From: 71.40.171.62 Rating: N/A |
I have had great luck with it! It works especially well in worn engines. Let me give you a couple of examples. (I have no ties with the folks at Lucas) I have a 96 Chevy truck with the 6.5 Detroit in it. As most of you know those engines were not any good even when new. At about 60,000 miles I started burning a quart of oil every 500-800 miles. I began replacing a quart of oil with a quart of Lucas at oil change. It slowed the consumption to 1/2 quart every 5,000 miles. By then it is time to change oil anyway. My truck has 375,000 miles on it and I have not had any problem. I also notice less noise on cold startup along with about 5 more ponds of oil pressure. The engine has well exceeded its expected life. Before my employer switched to Prevost,I used to drive a 72 model 05 entertainer coach with an 8V71. I personally logged 650,000 miles in that bus. We toured all 48 states as well as Canada. When I began driving the bus the engine had about 250,000 miles on it. It used about a gallon of oil every 800 miles. I started adding a gallon of Lucas to it when it would burn off the first gallon after an oil change and I could usually drive between 2000-2500 miles before adding oil. Again I noticed about 45psi at highway speed vs. 38-40 before. I finally lost a piston around 650,000 miles. In my mind the engine lasted as it should have and the Lucas more than paid for itself in saved oil and bus washes to remove the oil from the back of the bus. It could be my imagination but I think the engine ran a tad cooler as well. The bus I own is a retired entertainer coach. I now use it for recreation as most of you do. It is a 1985 Model 10 Eagle with a 6V92T. The bus was ordered new from Trailways and was never a "hound" it was sold as a shell and converted in Alabama. The first owner had an in frame done at 375,000 miles. When I got it it had 590,000 miles. It now has 910,000. I have added a gallon of Lucas in place of a gallon of oil at every change and find that if I drive it as often as I should I can get about 3,000 miles or so per gallon added. Last month a friend of mine bought a ragged old patched up 05 Eagle from a rv dealer in Nashville that took it on trade (I will never know how the P/O got it there from Louisiana). He had me fly up to get it and take it to Fargo. After working on it for 2 weeks trying to get it marginally safe to drive I left Nashville. When I left the engine was full of fresh Delo 100 40wt oil. I stopped to fuel the bus about 100 miles out of town. I was shocked to see the oil only touching the first 1/2 inch of the stick. I added 2 gallons of oil and got it just above the add mark. I drove another 150 miles or so and noticed the oil pressure gauge "ticking" I stopped and added 2 more gallons. 150 miles later I added 2 more gallons. As you guys know 40wt is hard to find at truck stops. I bought 2 gallons of Lucas and added both of them. The burning slowed to about a gallon every 500-600 miles. This engine was completely worn out, and I think it would not have made the trip had I not used Lucas in it. My "work" bus now is a 04 XLII Prevost with a 60 series. I always use a gallon of Lucas at oil change time and never have had to add a drop of oil. The coach has 400,000 miles on it. The Kubota genset has 20,000 hours and I use a quart of Lucas there too. In my rambling, non scientific tests I think Lucas is a quality product. It might be some kind of magic, or just 200wt oil mixed with molasses. All I know is it does what it is supposed to do. Slow oil consumption and possibly extend engine life. For less than $20.00 what have you got to loose. I have never seen or heard of it harming and engine. In my experience with our old 2 strokes we need to do 6 things to get the best service out of them. 1. Keep them under 200 degrees 2. Use only Delo 100 40wt oil (and a gallon of Lucas) 3. Never overfill them with oil unless you are crossing the desert in the summer. Keep the oil at or barely above the "add" mark. 4. Drive them often and drive them hard. Run em' at the governor, they like it. Use the fast idle, don't screw around airing up the bus with an electric compressor in fear of hurting the engine. 5. Enjoy your bus. Be proud of all the hard work and money you put into it. 6. Finally my pet peave (I am sure Nick agrees) LEAVE THE BUS AIR ALONE! If it breaks, fix it. If you cannot afford to fix it, leave it be, take the shaft or belt off if you must but dont remove it. they are simple reliable systems that can be fixed usually without much hassle. Sorry this was so long gang. Feel free to flame away, I just put on my flame suit. Best, Justin | ||
| larry currier (Larryc)
Registered Member Username: Larryc Post Number: 134 Registered: 2-2007 Posted From: 205.188.116.8 Rating: N/A |
I use both products. The Slick 50 is a small chunk of Teflon that coats the moving parts of your engine. All of the "chunks" are never burnished into the moving parts. It seems I always manage to get a "chunk" riding on an engine main seal or transmission seal. A seal will not disperse the "chunk" and the seal will leak. Fuller Roadranger trannys love Slick 50, but there is a trade off, same with engines. | ||
| David Hartley (Drdave)
Registered Member Username: Drdave Post Number: 792 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 97.101.2.69 Rating: N/A |
They also make a hub oil and gear oil additive for the rear ends. I use them also. The grease is fantastic on trailers. I had a trailer that always had very warm hubs with regular grease. I changed it over to Slick-50 grease and the temps dropped by 40 degrees at the hubs. Of course if you overload a trailer axle by a factor of 200% something is going to get warmed up. | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 609 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.117.21 Rating: N/A |
Justin, I think a lot of people on here are going to disagree on the factory coach air system being kept and maintained. | ||
| airless in Mississippi (Airless_in_mississippi)
Registered Member Username: Airless_in_mississippi Post Number: 146 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.242.65.142 Rating: N/A |
Lucas transmission fix... In a 94 ford explorer was in Northern Ohio this past winter on a road trip. The transmission refused to go into gear, would not move nothing what so ever would go. I went got a bottle of lucas transmission fix. I try to move it again without any luck. Poured in the lucas this took about 30 minutes since it was colder then wizzzzzz. Started the explorer up moved the shifter thru all gears and stopped on the way back up in reverse. The transmission caught and went into reverse with no problems. Drove it to the corner and back was moving fine. Let it sit overnight got in next morning and drove 2600 miles without any problems. Got home with it drove it for 3 more months putting nearly 4000 more miles on it and not a problem except blowing the waterpump. Sold it with the waterpump out and the guy is still driving it. I promise you I have torn out enough ford transmissions to tell you this one was dead, added the lucas and it was great. | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 610 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.117.21 Rating: N/A |
I had an engine with 400,000 miles with a hole in the block...put in one container of Lucas Oil Stabilizer and......... the hole was still there!Sorry, couldn't resist. I guess I'm starting to be influnced by JohnMC9's posts. HAR HAR.  | ||
| David Hartley (Drdave)
Registered Member Username: Drdave Post Number: 793 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 97.101.2.69 Rating: N/A |
John, You forgot to patch the hole with DUCT tape... 2-Rolls should have worked great... I got some of the new 18-mil Black Duct Tape... It's so tough I almost have to cut it with a knife to get it off the roll! And it sticks permanently too ! | ||
| Paul Lawry (Dreamscape)
Registered Member Username: Dreamscape Post Number: 34 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 64.40.223.242 Rating: N/A |
I also use Lucas, one gallon per oil change. Noticed a big differance in oil consumption, more miles before having to add. I heard that it is good for 2 strokes from a DD mechanic in So Cal. It works for me, your mileage may vary. Paul | ||
| WILLIAM D. WATKINS (Sivrtnge2)
Registered Member Username: Sivrtnge2 Post Number: 84 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 76.97.110.75 Rating: N/A |
Hey folks, Thanks for all the replies!!! I was told not to use lucas in the 2 stroke by a dd mechanic. However, I can see from the replies that it would be in my best interest. (Chessie4905) had you used liquid still instead of lucas, you would have patched every hole in the block!!! I use lucas in all my other diesel units, I also use a little when I get stopped up (castor oil). This stuff will definately lube the chassis if you know what i mean...had to go there!!! -- BILL | ||
| niles steckbauer (Niles500)
Registered Member Username: Niles500 Post Number: 752 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.91.107.56 Rating: N/A |
John - at least the Lucas Oil Stabilizer didn't make the hole worse - or did it? | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 613 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.117.21 Rating: N/A |
It was great on the dirt on the ground it ran out on to. Kept the dust down on that spot for months!! |