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slc (4.17.253.10)

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Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 2:18 pm:   

I had already fiberglassed the front two piece door to make a one piece door but I read that they have a problem staying together.

I have seen several RTS doors that were fiberglased to gether, then had a sheet metal glued along the front panel for increased strength on the outside and on the inside.

What would be a good glue to use to glue the sheet metal to the door front and inside panel?

I heard there was a glue in a yellow and black tube at home depot that was an all around commercial glue (no name) that might be good for this purpose. I need something that will let me have a little adjustment time before it permanently sets. Any ideas?
Many thanx
Ace (24.28.44.126)

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Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 9:54 pm:   

What your referring to at Home depot is PL Gutter and Lap adhesive! Black in color and very very strong! You have to cut it off to get rid of it once it cures!

Ace
jmaxwell (66.42.93.240)

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Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 10:07 pm:   

My understanding of the RTS is that the body panels are made of a thermoplastic compound, and not fiberglass. The only 2 that I have looked at were definately thermoplastic, not fiberglass. If that is true of the door also, then regular casting or finish resin will not adhere to it. It will eventually flake off or pop loose.
Chuck Harris - PD4104 (207.172.11.147)

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Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 10:16 pm:   

Hi,

The PL polyurethane caulk's/glues are extremely nice to use. They do take quite awhile to fully harden, so you will not have any trouble adjusting. You must, however, clamp them in such a way that they cannot move for 24 hours.

There are 4 kinds of PL products that I have seen at the Borg (H.D.... you will be assimilated.) There are the caulking materials available in white, black, and concrete grey, and the construction adhesive.

The caulking material sticks wonderfully to most anything clean. It will not stick to HDPE, but then nothing much will. It is UV proof, and you literally have to cut it off to get rid of it once it cures. It will not rip loose like silicone RTV will. I haven't found anything that will dissolve the cured product. I used some to repair the soles of my construction boots, and it has gone 2 years with no significant wear! ... and I beat the living p*ss out of my boots.

The construction adhesive sticks very well too, but it becomes very stiff and hard once it cures. It would be great for gluing the aluminum panels onto a bus... but so would the caulk.

-Chuck
slc (4.17.253.98)

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Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 3:35 pm:   

Ok, so this is tube supply, like caulk, do I have to spread it out with a putty knife before applying to the door, or apply to both surfaces, spreading with the putty knife??
How would you do it?
Ace (24.28.44.126)

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Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 5:15 pm:   

I would merely apply it to one side, press together, clamp and wait! I think you would want it be spread like a notched trowel does when using floor adhesive! This doesn't mean spread it. It means to run rows of adhesive straight from the caulking gun!

That's how I would do it, and did!
slc (198.29.191.147)

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Posted on Monday, March 18, 2002 - 6:56 am:   

Thanks Ace and all you others.
evolution custom coach (Mcibus2002) (63.188.38.73)

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Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 2:05 pm:   

i think you would be better off purchasing a r&m fiberglass unit they fit ,work well,and look great try www.RM-FIBERGLASS.com they have many parts for rts buses and are very helpful.

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