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| norcal kyle (Kylexisxrad)
Registered Member Username: Kylexisxrad Post Number: 191 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 67.172.123.232 Rating: N/A |
so heres the short version: my friends are trying to register their Eagle 10 in CA. so far they have paid all of their fees and done everything EXCEPT the VIN verification. thats the problem. the bus doesnt have a VIN. i mean, it technically DOES, but its nowhere on the vehicle. both the builder's plate above the driver and the stamped plate welded to the engine bay door frame are just plain gone, and without it we cant complete the registration. i have talked to several former eagle workers and they have all told me that those were the only two on the whole bus. so this is what i need: does anyone know of anybody/any place in the orange county, CA area that will either stamp a plate and weld it on for us or help us get a vin on this bus somehow? its has to be done by friday the 11th so i can drive it back up to sacramento. thanks! kyle in norcal | ||
| Richard Bowyer (Drivingmisslazy)
Registered Member Username: Drivingmisslazy Post Number: 2031 Registered: 1-2001 Posted From: 75.108.80.226 Rating: N/A |
Kyle, that is exactly what someone did to DML before I got her. There is a small aluminum plate in the lower right hand corner of the engine compartment and on this plate was stamped the vin number. Seven digits as I recall. It was definitely hand stamped and then welded onto the frame of the door. I got her registered in CA with no problem. I would suggest you contact Mike at the MAK board and he should be able to help you come up with something. http://busconversions.com/makbus_sales.htm I am assuming you do have the original Eagle registration number on something. Richard | ||
| Douglas Wotring (Tekebird)
Registered Member Username: Tekebird Post Number: 284 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 71.59.75.212 Rating: N/A |
make a plate and stamp the numbers you have on the Title into it...weld it to the frame. Dumb CHP or CA DMV people will never know the difference | ||
| Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
Registered Member Username: Luvrbus Post Number: 234 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 74.33.55.251 Rating: N/A |
Kyle, i had that problem on a 05 Eagle and there was another in fuse panel under the drivers window left hand corner.is your # 4,5,7 13 or 15 digits. I was told by the State officer that found mine that there is always 1 known to law enforcement only. You need to be careful with this is a federal deal fwiw | ||
| norcal kyle (Kylexisxrad)
Registered Member Username: Kylexisxrad Post Number: 192 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 67.172.123.232 Rating: N/A |
its a 5 digit. #30605. model 10. i spoke to dan lenz @ the new Eagle(10yr veteran of the factory) and he told me that there were only two. | ||
| Douglas Wotring (Tekebird)
Registered Member Username: Tekebird Post Number: 285 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 71.59.75.212 Rating: N/A |
although there is generally one somewhere that is very hard to get to or hard to remove. On a bus I doubt that there is one only known to LE. again, if you have a title for the bus just make a tag, or go through the process of getting a new VIN. OT a bit, numerous times people have gone into DMV's and DOT's on older coaches to get a registration only to be told that a VIN has to be 19 digits or whatever.......The VIN system did not start till 1981. | ||
| H3-40 (Ace)
Registered Member Username: Ace Post Number: 728 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 70.220.198.204 Rating: N/A |
Kyle I can stamp the numbers 30605 in the plate and ship it to you but you will have to find someone to weld it on for you out there as I'm in Florida! Ace | ||
| Douglas Wotring (Tekebird)
Registered Member Username: Tekebird Post Number: 286 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 71.59.75.212 Rating: N/A |
Another thought...stamp the numbers right into the frame somewhere......Eagle is out of busniess so there is no way to verify that is not how it was done...... better yet stamp it in two places, one easily accessable and one where it is a PITA to get to. | ||
| Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
Registered Member Username: Luvrbus Post Number: 235 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 74.33.55.251 Rating: N/A |
Doug, you are probably right but this man didn't work for the dmv he was a State of Texas officer.He looked for the plate first on inside, then the plate on the back right hand corner in the engine compartment, made a comment about that Eagles are always rusted out here and gone,looked in the back baggage bay on the pass side, looked on the drivers side in the front bay,and said just one more place to look and there it was (Message edited by luvrbus on January 06, 2008) | ||
| larry currier (Larryc)
Registered Member Username: Larryc Post Number: 156 Registered: 2-2007 Posted From: 207.200.116.13 Rating: N/A |
The 5 Eagle had the number on the AC bracket.(Gone). The #s are about 3/16 tall so go to Harbor Freight Tool and buy a set of number stamps. The factory plate was about 1 1/2 in long and 3/4 wide with the #s centered. I welded mine right on the pass side engine rail and hit it with a coat of primer. | ||
| Buswarrior (Buswarrior)
Registered Member Username: Buswarrior Post Number: 1150 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 76.68.132.4 Rating: |
Folks, this is simply a bureaucratic requirement, the nation's future and your entry to heaven will not be hanging in the balance. You didn't steal it, and you've done nothing wrong. Put the darned number on it someplace, somehow, so the paper pusher can tick off the box. The B.S. that comes out of government workers, the DMV, and in particular, members of the law enforcement community, simply astounds me. They make stuff up because what else are they going to do all day? What's worse is when we follow like sheep... Bring some closure to this and get down the road! happy coaching! buswarrior | ||
| Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
Registered Member Username: Luvrbus Post Number: 236 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 74.33.55.251 Rating: N/A |
buswarrior you are right on about the DMV this the reason the state got involed in mine because of some jerk.I have gotten plates in three different states since over the years and nobody even looked for the serial no. just wanted the money for a inspection. but they can get nasty about the deal here in the US.and knowing what I know I would do something different today (Message edited by luvrbus on January 06, 2008) | ||
| Douglas Wotring (Tekebird)
Registered Member Username: Tekebird Post Number: 287 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 71.59.75.212 Rating: N/A |
Luvr, you found a one in a million.......being that there is no standard location for these numbers on buses I find it hard to beleive that your average cop will find it......unless they have a book somewhere to tell them where to look. | ||
| Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
Registered Member Username: Luvrbus Post Number: 237 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 74.33.55.251 Rating: N/A |
Doug, who knows i was telling kyle where the guy looked for mine.I put a tag in the engine compartment on mine, 45.00 for a State of Idaho officer to watch me put 2 rivets in a tag its all about the $ | ||
| Moe Hollow (Moehollow)
Registered Member Username: Moehollow Post Number: 19 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 68.183.235.213 Rating: N/A |
Apparently the original VIN on my MC-5a was not good enough for California, so one of the former owners had to get a separate California ID number that appeared on the title when I got it. However, when my wife went to the DMV to register the bus, they ignored that and did it in the original VIN. I couldn't figure what they're doing. I asked and neither could they. | ||
| ED Hackenbruch (Shadowman)
Registered Member Username: Shadowman Post Number: 48 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 70.201.162.161 Rating: N/A |
When i brought my 68 5A to AZ. from TX. we could only find one plate. The other was originally mounted on the corner of the overhead luggage rack right above the drivers head. My book had a picture that showed that so they said the one in the engine compartment was good enough. Serial # is only 4 numbers. That was in 04. Last spring i had to take the carpeting off of the side wall in the stairwell to access my door lock air hose to fix a leak. Lo and behold mounted on the wall next to my access panel is the other id plate. Guess the PO moved it when he did the conversion. Good to know that it is there but i will probably never need it. | ||
| Cameron Jones (Crazy71)
Registered Member Username: Crazy71 Post Number: 72 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 72.49.253.33 Rating: N/A |
Buswarrior wrote: "Folks, this is simply a bureaucratic requirement, the nation's future and your entry to heaven will not be hanging in the balance. You didn't steal it, and you've done nothing wrong. Put the darned number on it someplace, somehow, so the paper pusher can tick off the box. The B.S. that comes out of government workers, the DMV, and in particular, members of the law enforcement community, simply astounds me. They make stuff up because what else are they going to do all day? What's worse is when we follow like sheep... Bring some closure to this and get down the road! happy coaching! buswarrior" You nailed my attitude EXACTLY!! Some people in this world (like some that work at the BMV) have been so trained to follow the rules, they no longer have the ability to use common sense. | ||
| Moe Hollow (Moehollow)
Registered Member Username: Moehollow Post Number: 20 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 68.183.235.246 Rating: N/A |
Why do you call it "common sense"? Do you find it to be so common? | ||
| marvin pack (Gomer)
Registered Member Username: Gomer Post Number: 177 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 76.4.148.149 Rating: N/A |
common sense is politically INCORRECT if I remember correctly> and I, like a lot of bus nuts,have to do the common things and that is show the idiots a piece of paper that has all the things they need and correctly identify it on our equipment LOL. B W right on gomer | ||
| Cameron Jones (Crazy71)
Registered Member Username: Crazy71 Post Number: 73 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 72.49.253.33 Rating: N/A |
Pretty much what Gomer said. Got to keep it simple and by the book. At least let them think it is by the book. Many now days have a "God forbid you get by with something" attitude. Like buswarrior said...It isn't stolen. The vin inspection thing was disigned for good reasons, but sometimes the intentions don't really apply. It is also funny that they will make a big deal of the vin or serial number, BUT one day it is a bus....the next (after minimal changes) it is a motorhome. They have no problem with this because they can go down the little checklist and see you have done this and that and they are satisfied. A major change of type of vehicle is not problem, but simlply getting a plate so you can drive it is jumping through hoops. Common sense?? |
