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Tim Brandt (Timb)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 2:06 pm:   

Here goes my first post on the new board. I had mentioned in an earlier post that when we brought our bus home we had a rear blowout and the only replacement we could find on the road was a knobbed tire. I am getting ready to replace the other tires and am wondering if it's OK to continue using this one knobbed one or should I just buy six and either carry the knobbed as a spare or sell it. It's a Michelen 12R22.5 with only 250 miles on it if anybody needs one. Curious to hear the feedback

Tim
Glenn Williams (Glenn)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 3:08 pm:   

If it is not a noisy tire, I'd use it. Just make sure the rest of your new tires are the exact same size/height.
Tim Brandt (Timb)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 3:42 pm:   

Not noisy. All I hear while driving is the screaming jimmy out back. Part two of the question would be is there a preference for inside or outside with this one?
Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 3:55 pm:   

Tim, I would sell it and buy 4 highway tires even if its not noisy now it will be with wear have a good day

(Message edited by luvrbus on February 12, 2008)
Douglas Wotring (Tekebird)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 4:08 pm:   

sell it and put on Rib tread tires... also if you choose to carry a spare...also a rib.

if you had a spare you would not have been in a place to need to buy a tire
Gus Causbie (Gusc)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 7:27 pm:   

Very seldom are two different model tires the same diameter even if the same brand.

They almost never are for different brands even though the size listed on the tires is the same??

I see no reason not to use it as a spare.
Douglas Wotring (Tekebird)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 7:41 pm:   

not good as a spare as it's not good as a steer tire.....sure you could use it but it will be two tire changes by the road service guy..$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

spare should always be an all position or steer tire
Gus Causbie (Gusc)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 6:20 pm:   

My definition of a spare is one that will get me to the tire store.

I can't justify carrying a spare that is as new or as good as the ones on the ground. No point in having a tire there to die of old age.

In fact, since I have Good Sam, I'm going to stop carrying the spare wheel, just the tire, because GS will mount it for me.

Just my way.
Moe Hollow (Moehollow)
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Posted on Friday, February 15, 2008 - 12:07 am:   

I have a mounted spare but have been considering not carrying it if I want to use the space. I believe some people just use one of the duals as an emergency spare. Anyone doing that?
H3-40 (Ace)
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Posted on Friday, February 15, 2008 - 4:22 pm:   

While in Arcadia, a friend of mine discovered a cut in his right side steer tire that was not there when he left home approx. 1 1/2hrs away. While asking numerous "BusNuts" if it would be safe to drive home on (my opinion was I wouldn't drive it to the gate let alone home) most all of them said things like "sure, no problem" and "I wouldn't hesitate driving it to California", and "heck, I have seen way worse than that"! Well you get the idea! Most everyone said it was not a problem but to be safe, we decided to change it and put on the mounted spare. Problem now is we found the new spare was the wrong size. Now what do we do? Well, we considered our options and being it was Jan. 1, new tires are somewhat scarce in Arcadia. Next option was to ask fellow bus nuts for a used tire! Ahh ha, we found one but it would have to be dis-mounted from an aluminum wheel and re-mounted to my friends steel wheel. Seems like a lot of work AND expense to just get home safely. Next option which we carried out was to take off the steer tire and the tag axle tire and swap them out. With the Blue Goose standing by (for moral support I'm sure) we did just that and the trip home went without incident!
Oh by the way, the bus sat for about a month with the cut tire on the tag axle and for all you truckers and bus nuts that would have gone forever on it, the word is, as the bus sat, the cut got longer and longer and longer! No it didn't blow out by the time he got to the tire shop for new tires but it goes to show you, it wasn't very safe to begin with especially as a steer tire!
So the moral of this is, YES, carry at least a good un-mounted spare tire if not a complete tire/wheel assy. of the correct size and bolt pattern! It can and will save you AGGRAVATION, TIME and MONEY!

Ace
Also let me add that it's nice to have on hand the proper jack which is not that expensive and lug wrench or sockets, a small piece of pipe, just in case you need more leverage, and if you can, a torque wrench. We borrowed NCbobs and it really helped. I have since bought my own snap-on 100-600 ftlb wrench just in case Bob isn't around! LOL
john w. roan (Chessie4905)
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Posted on Friday, February 15, 2008 - 6:37 pm:   

Having good Sam may be nice, but being able to change your own tire with a useable spare should be one of our abilities.Air wrenches are pretty cheap at Harbor Freight and get a torque stick if you can't afford a torque wrench. Sometimes you can wait a long time to get a tire serviced if you get caught in the wrong place or time, especially if time is important. Upgrade spare when you replace any coach tires. Most replace at least two of them at a time, so one should be a good one to keep to upgrade your spare. OTOH many have never had to replace a tire on the road. Choices..... ( plus, many of us don't have a wife that can change a tire, so Good Sam can make sense. )
Gus Causbie (Gusc)
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Posted on Friday, February 15, 2008 - 10:46 pm:   

If you're only going a few miles to the tire store it doesn't matter what kind of spare you use as long as it holds air. It is no big deal to drive slowly and carefully for a few miles. The sky will not fall!

Good Sam is so inexpensive compared to any kind or road service I don't see how anybody can lose?

I change wheels at home but not on the road and I'm a pretty old guy, I really shouldn't be doing it at home.

Changing a tire on an interstate is suicidal. Let some young strong guy with the proper equipment sent by Good Sam do the job. Nobody is in that big a hurry.

Good Sam will mount your spare wheel/tire or mount your spare tire and they are good. I've only used them once with my wife's car, but they were on the spot prompt.

I would gladly pay twice their fee.
R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
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Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 11:43 am:   

I'm with you, George...and have used it several times over the years on coach and other vehicles.

..."leave the driving to us", as it were :-)

RCB
Bruce Henderson (Oonrahnjay)
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Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 12:32 pm:   

Ace wrote: "While in Arcadia, a friend of mine discovered a cut in his right side steer tire that was not there when he left home approx. 1 1/2hrs away. (snip) "

__. Thanks for that story, Ace. Real-world info is always good. But haven't a lot of people been dancing around the REAL important principle here? That is, if you're going to pinch pennies *anywhere* on a bus, the tires should be the last place you do it!!!!

__. No matter what -- storage space, money, tread type -- if you don't have tires sufficient to the needs of your bus and your conditions, you're making a big mistake. A mistake that could cost you your life and the life of your family, friends, or others.
john w. roan (Chessie4905)
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Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 3:28 pm:   

Chuckllb, if you had a GMC, you wouldn't need it!:-)

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