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Johnny (63.159.197.17)

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Posted on Monday, May 06, 2002 - 2:46 pm:   

Does anyone here use them on their bus?
Jim Ashworth (Jimnh) (172.174.104.228)

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Posted on Monday, May 06, 2002 - 9:18 pm:   

Retreads are illegal on the front of a bus. On the drives, they are not exposed to enough free air to keep them cool, like a truck would have. On an MCI tag axle, having only 3000 lbs per wheel you might be able to get away with them. Prevost tags carry about 8-10,000 lbs and they would likely fail. You won't see them on my bus or anyone that I know personally. The damage that a flying tread can do will be far more expensive than the savings of using a retread.

Jim
Ross Carlisle (Ross) (216.107.195.127)

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Posted on Monday, May 06, 2002 - 9:31 pm:   

I was thinking of using them on the tags, but I probably won't. As Jim says, the damage of a flying tread could be very bad. If it goes through the fiberglass inner fender well it could even damage the interior.

Ross
Johnny (63.159.188.202)

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Posted on Monday, May 06, 2002 - 9:32 pm:   

Mine is a Ford B-700 skoolie, with 22.5" wheels. The rears are Bandags--worn bias-plys, yuck. I have no problem with Bandags--in fact, my big-rig mechanic uncle trusts them more than new tires.

I plan to run retreads (Bandag only) on the back.
Don KS/TX (64.24.4.92)

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Posted on Tuesday, May 07, 2002 - 7:08 am:   

I ran very old Bandag retreads on the drive axle of my very heavy bus for several years, finally took them off and replaced them with new tires because of the extreme age of the casing. Most of my driving is very fast on the hot flatlands of Kansas and Texas. I found from my many miles of heavy trucking, the Bandag will stick together better than a new tire (and give many more miles of service). Many people think that the shredded tires they see along the roadway are recaps coming off. WRONG! Next time you see one, stop and look, it will not be a retread, but a virgin tire, most likely one that was abused to death by improper inflation. I had not heard the "inadequate free air for cooling" angle before, but feel there is probably a pretty good breeze back there at 70 mph, sure was plenty on mine at least.
FAST FRED (65.58.186.33)

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Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 5:25 am:   

There are two different terms here , with different meanings.

Retreading , or regroving is cutting new groves in your old tire.

Recapping is having all the tread ground off and a new cap glued on to make the tires have an orig amount of rubber on them.


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Don KS/TX (64.24.4.78)

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Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 7:41 am:   

Glad you pointed that out Fred, however BANDAG disagrees with you, and calls what they do, grinding off the tread and putting on a new tread "retreading" even though you call it cutting new grooves in the tire. In the truck and tire world at least, it seems that "retreading" is recapping, and "regrooving" is regrooving. See www.bandag.com for more information. Ya gotta love this English language sometimes! (like I am still looking for a bus with a hot water heater in it. Who would need to heat HOT water?)
FAST FRED (65.58.185.137)

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Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 11:24 am:   

Dont worry , Long time ago there was an add for a Home Freezer on the Ted Brown Show on the radio,
I was about 5.

My mom called in and asked,

" Who wants their home Frozen?

Same problems with the english then.

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Buswarrior (Buswarrior) (64.229.208.6)

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Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 1:38 am:   

Greyhound is running some tires that have been "remanufactured" on the drives and tags up here in Canada.
(just to add another word to the mix!)

So, can it be so bad.....?

happy coaching!
buswarrior
dougthebonifiedbusnut (24.218.119.24)

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Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 8:59 pm:   

don ks/tx is right in the many years i drove heavy trucks many people ran the bandags i drove a whole bunch of miles in excess of 100k lbs on bandags and i never had a cap peal of on me but i know it happens alot i will have no problem running them on my bus but thats more because i am financialy challenged than anything else

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