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CoryDane RTSIIIL (198.29.191.148)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 11, 2002 - 7:20 am: | |
There have been some comments about composting toilets for the RV. I have seen some sites and they state that the material has to compost for 1 to 2 years before it is ready to be returned to the earth.
The idea makes it a bit easier to place a toilet because the self contained units seem to only need a vent, no plumbing.
Being used to a standard RV type toilet, which for all practical matters, are very close to home units, I am cautious about going into an new area of waste disposal without all the details of usage and pluses or minus items about this type of toilet.
My concern, to anyone that might have one, is how do you deal with the smell? with clean up? How close to a "home" unit are they? How do they handle the winter down time?
The idea has its pluses but I can imagine some nasty negatives so any information you may share is appreciated. cd |
David Pinson (63.78.155.193)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 11, 2002 - 10:11 am: | |
Have you heard of the "Incinolet" system made in Dallas, Tx?.....I have installed one in our eagle05/10....the waste goes into a liner, then a lever is activated....dropping it into a chamber, that by intense heat...reduces the waste to powder |
john wood (206.252.234.182)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 11, 2002 - 5:31 pm: | |
Most of the composting potties I've looked into are much like an outhouse. Just a seat and a chamber that the "goodies" collect in. Some of them have a rotating bin to keep the stuff aerated. You will also need to add dry organic material such as sawdust or grass clippings to balance the high moisture and nitrogen and keep the mix aerobic. Anaerobic = stink and mess. Also, as the mix needs to be kept warm and aerated, many composting potties requiring power for a small heating element and fan to work properly. AND what do you do with the finished compost if you are out on the road and the tank is full?
I have been thinking that a macerator pump feeding an "injector" in the exahust while under way would be a good way to "incinerate" both the grey and black water. I would think that the temperatures found before the muffler would flash the waste to steam and also sterilize it before getting out the tailpipe. Just have to make sure system is up to temp and engine runing, or you could flood the engine! Not a pretty thought. |
Gary Stadler (Boogiethecat) (68.7.217.217)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 11, 2002 - 10:39 pm: | |
There is a company that makes an injector unit that does just that... although it only gets rid of the "liquid" part, and it injects it directy into the exhaust manifold because farther downstream isn't hot enough. I'd HATE to be riding a motorcycle behind one of those.... |
Scott Whitney (24.205.238.126)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 11, 2002 - 11:01 pm: | |
This is too funny. As if the oil spray coming off my Detroit isn't bad enough, I can just imagine blasting sewage out the pipe too! I think I'd have to paint the toad in the desert warfare camoflauge motif.
: ^ )
Scott |
FAST FRED (65.58.188.189)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 5:46 am: | |
Most of these units not only need to be warm 24/7 some also have power vents.
If you can drain the "water "off your still left with the stink.
There are marine toilets that can push ( or have vacumed) your waste to a very remote tank.
NOT CHEAP or troubble free (high parts count) Look up HEADHUNTER for an idea.
How is your layout so unique that normal RV systems will not work?
FAST FRED |
CoryDaneRTSIIIL (198.29.191.148)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 7:10 am: | |
Dave Pinson
Thanks for your input
How long have you had your Incinolet?
Does it really work as the web page says?
How long is the cycle, is this a drag on batteries if booning?
How well do you like it?
Can the exhaust be directed under the bus? It seems with the catalytic converter inline, and according to the webpage, there is no oder, is this so?
Thanks again-cd |
DaveD (206.47.98.152)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 7:26 am: | |
If have any kind of water supply a regular RV toilet will work. If you don't have water pressure, it can be flushed by pouring water into it. No. elecricity or any thing else is needed. There's a lot of value in that kind of basic reliabilty for such a vital appliance.
DaveD |
FAST FRED (65.58.185.178)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 9:46 am: | |
When you get the Inconolet you will see it is completly impractical for an RV.
You need to aim into a special burnable paper target and then supply 1500W for a long time.
Needs a thru the roof vent too, Hot S*** , is no great smelling option inside an RV.
There was a co that has a similar unit that used a small oil fired burner ( like in a house furnace) , that would use loads less electric.
The tried & true RV stuff does work.
FAST FRED |
Stephen Fessenden (Sffess) (67.226.254.189)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 5:19 pm: | |
I thought that the injector for dumping the holding tank through the exhaust was off the market for years now. Also I read a post last year that said it will not work with a Diesel. Not hot enough? |
CoryDaneRTSIIIL (4.17.253.60)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 9:13 pm: | |
Yes, that unit that injected the byproduct into a metal casing on the exhaust was used extensively on a very old model RV. Gee, Its been off the market for at least 20 or 30 years. I think it was banned for environmental reasons. Hence the unit died with the RV that used them.
As for my inquiry, I have a few reasons to look elsewhere than old faithful. The fittings are cheap plastic and crack. The fittings on my RV are cracking and I'll have to find new sometime. Also, old faithful, the throne in the RV developed a leak, only leaks when flushing but inconvenient anyway. I'd fix it, but the screws that hold it in place require an 18 inch long wrench to get at them. Dont have one yet. and space for the tank will be expensive where ever I put it. I thought about the above floor, under the throne install, but that seems to raise the trone up, I'm just a little guy you know, I'd have to take a run and leap up to mount the throne. And I just plain wanted to see what was out there. The Incenerlet sounds like a good idea, if it really does all it says and controls oder. Besides, everyone should have an ear on whats out there whether they want one or not.
Thanks all for the comments - cd |