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Bobby Sather (Seagull) (12.80.25.47)

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Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 12:55 am:   

I understand that some of the earlier model eagles were made from corten steel that is rust resistant. Does anyone know if the 65 01 is one of them or how do you tell?
Thanks
Bobby
bobk (24.56.194.188)

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Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 9:14 am:   

I have a 65 01, I wouldn't call it "rust resistant" by any stretch of the imagination.
Ace (24.28.44.126)

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Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 10:06 am:   

I have a 65 01 also and it has very little rust around the front windshield mostly but I wouldn't call it rusting away on the wheels as some say they do! I think alot of it depends on it's history like where is has been worked and or stored if any!

Ace
Greg Roberts (Gregeagle20) (172.136.169.210)

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Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 10:28 am:   

I believe that only the Eagle model 20 that was spec'd by NJ Transit had the core 10 steel. As far as I know these were pretty much only delivered in 1989 but there could be others out there. Otherwise, I think the Eagle frames were regular carbon steel and prone to serious oxidation. - Greg
jmaxwell (66.42.92.233)

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Posted on Monday, May 13, 2002 - 1:52 am:   

Core 10 was developed to soften the noise of the rust hitting the ground from Eagles, thereby making them acceptable for parking in campgrounds with paved parking pads.
Scott P. (205.188.199.179)

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Posted on Monday, May 13, 2002 - 9:53 am:   

Keep in mind that corten steel is supposed to rust. But unlike plain carbon steel, once a relatively thin layer of rust has formed, it becomes a protective layer, greatly reducing future damaging rust. So don't expect it to be pretty, but it will be in lot better condition than anything built of plain carbon steel.
David & Lorna Schinske (Davidschinske) (67.216.108.67)

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Posted on Monday, May 13, 2002 - 3:27 pm:   

Why does everybody say that the Eagles rust so terribly bad. Our '72 Eagle (was Trailways in TX) has some members rusted thru around engine and a few places near the ground. But around the windows there was very little rust. We looked at an RTS that we don't know how it was holding together. The entire baggage bay was falling off due to rust. Is our bus a rarity or what.
Lorna
Ace (24.28.44.126)

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Posted on Monday, May 13, 2002 - 4:01 pm:   

It's called jealousy!

Eagle owner wannabees! :)

A&$
Linda 4104 (12.94.1.140)

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Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 12:16 am:   

For what it's worth, here's some info found on the Internet about cor-ten steel:

"In the last half of this century weathering steel (COR-TEN®) has come into widespread use in sculpture. COR-TEN® is US Steel’s trade name for a corrosion resistant low-alloy steel that forms a protective coating of rust (hydrated iron oxide) when exposed in many natural atmospheres. The appearance of weathering steel is due to natural processes.The weathering characterization is a reminder that the material can change in appearance over time due to the environment. This should be kept in mind in appreciating and caring for Weathering Steel Sculpture

The rust layer on weathering steel becomes protective when the fine discrete crystallites of early rust recrystallize into a relatively intact barrier layer of rust. The formation of the protective layer requires alternating wetting and drying cycles; the wetting to generate the rust, and the drying to allow it to recrystallize. If the steel is not allowed sufficient drying time, the resulting continual rusting will cause the partially crystallized outer layer of rust to be shed and will prevent a barrier film from forming."

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