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Gerald Norman (Gnorman46)
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 11:44 am:   

I am trying to compile a list of running converted 4104's does anyone know if this has been done already and if so where I can find it. I have pictures and some info on 37 running converted 4104's so far. I would like to start a group of 4104 owners maybe a club so we can all have resources to work with as a group. I am really having fun with this bus and would enjoy a 4104 rally at some point in the future when ours is road worthy, I am not by any means trying to oust other types of busses, the 4104 is just my favorite. I think my blood is turning to diesel.
Douglas Wotring (Tekebird)
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 3:38 pm:   

Might want to join the Gm Busnuts Yahoo Group....most of them are probably active there
Austin Scott Davis (Zimtok)
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 4:49 pm:   

My bus is running GREAT....

PDY1044971


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bernie newcomb (Newk)
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 5:35 pm:   

my 04 runs great, i think a club of 04 owners is a good idea.we have had ours for 3 yrs. we live in fla.,but we are in ky for the summer.
Douglas Wotring (Tekebird)
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 5:46 pm:   

'59 4261 New Owner Clif Bar, managed by former owner Doug Wotring

Base of Operations Berkley CA.

Looking for OEM New 04 parts let me know what you need?
Gerald Norman (Gnorman46)
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 5:49 pm:   

I am a member on the yahoo group but there are a lot of busses out there that are not represented, Good deal Austin, Bernie I thought it would be a good thing as well. I am a web developer among other things and was thinking of building a site and hosting it for a 4104 club. My wife and I thought it would be very cool if in the future we could have a convoy of 4104's heading down the hiway to a beach somewhere and spend a weekend or week with like minded people. New friends, new resources, good food and lots of fun.
edwin b willis (Edwin_b)
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 7:23 pm:   

sounds good! count me in.
edwin b
4104-230
Gerald Norman (Gnorman46)
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 7:31 pm:   

FYI for all.
Our bus is PD4104-513
http://pursuit.bravehost.com/
Gus Causbie (Gusc)
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 10:20 pm:   

sounds like a good idea.

PD4104-1274 is here and active, just completed a 6400 mi trip a week ago.
Gerald Norman (Gnorman46)
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 10:35 pm:   

If anyone is really interested, send me some images 1-3 of your bus and a short bio you would allow to be posted on a site and I will build a sample site and see if everyone likes it. Might be fun. I will build in an administration page so you can edit your own section as well as a forum, classifieds etc etc..It will take me a few weeks but I think we can get something started.
Linda & Kirby Karlsson (Linda4104fl)
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 3:29 pm:   

Could be logistical barriers to club rallies, since we are so scattered across the country. We are based in southeast Florida during the winter, and wander throughout the summer.

Kirby & Linda
4104-4138
Gerald Norman (Gnorman46)
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 7:58 pm:   

Yes but we could tie groups together that are in those different areas and they could have different rallies for the different areas, the effect would be the same getting us together with other 4104 owners. If those that travel alot were to go through those other areas they could meet up with that areas group. Maybe a newsletter or something like that to keep up with plans and rallies. I don't think it would be a problem with the logistics in this case.
John Zabrocki (John_z)
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 11:44 pm:   

I like all the ideas that have been presented so far. I would like to get together with other owners, even if just for a short weekend with a few brats and a beer or two!

PD-4104 4139, a 1959, resides in northern Minnesota and is getting better every day.
Gerald Norman (Gnorman46)
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Posted on Saturday, June 09, 2007 - 9:57 am:   

I am starting a web site this weekend, I will build it let everyone know as soon as I get it on the internet. I have received a few pictures and info and will add those as well and the owners can go in and edit them when I put the site up.
I do think this will be fun.
Gerald Norman (Gnorman46)
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Posted on Saturday, June 09, 2007 - 2:37 pm:   

I have purchased the domain pd4104.com and will start adding a site later this week.
Gus Causbie (Gusc)
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Posted on Saturday, June 09, 2007 - 9:27 pm:   

Gerals,

Thanks for your interest and efforts.

I tried a couple of yahoo sites but they want far too much personal information with no valid promise of what they will do with your personal data. In fact, a few years ago, when they were having financial problems, they sold personal data after promising not to do it. Sure can't trust them since then.

Some guys are comfortable with disclosing personal data but I really resent the way companies completely ignore privacy concerns.
Tim Hoskinson (Tdh37514151)
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Posted on Saturday, June 09, 2007 - 10:38 pm:   

I agree with Gus I don't care for Yahoo's request for personal information and have never been on their site for that reason Tim PD 4104 2098
Gerald Norman (Gnorman46)
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Post Number: 51
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Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 5:04 pm:   

I agree about the yahoo groups and the personal info, my other problem has been when requesting information I usually get the same or close to the same answers that don't fit my particular problem at the time and several are costly solutions. I really enjoy the bus nut forum and get so much useful info I decided to start putting my effort towards what I enjoy. I am not working at the moment due to a disabling injury and the work on our bus has slowed down so I am working on the site to help supply a much needed venue for 4104's and other busses. I hope everyone gets the same thrill out of these busses as I do. My wife and I are hoping to retire into this bus and travel extensively when it is complete. We will definitely want to meet all the friends we have made here on the forum.

I am an electronics technician, business analyst, developer, db admin and a musician. I have done a lot of different things in my life and they are now paying off. I am doing all my own electrical, plumbing, construction as well as body work and painting so I always have questions. I have also owned and operated several companies so I have built a wide assortment of resources that I can use here. This should be a fun and interesting endeavor. I will keep everyone updated here and on the site.

Thanks again for all the interest, suggestions and help.

I was asked a question earlier by email and I thought I would answer it here so everyone would know.

Question – Are you building the website and how are you coding the site?

Answer: The first version is being built on a generic site tool so that I can get something up quickly, it will be a basic site and temporary. I cannot sit for very long intervals so I am a little slower than normal.

Within the next couple of months I will bring up a new site coded in C# on Microsoft’s asp.net framework and SQL 2005 database, this way I can program into the site all the needed security and functions such as administration pages and user pages as well as forums, albums and the such etc.. I would like to add. This is where my developer training has taken me so I use what I know. I am hoping that this site will be a very good and extensive tool.
Ron Straub (Flightrisk)
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 11:51 am:   

PD4104-1060, Bethel Island, CA

Will work on getting a picture up!
Ron
Charles Seaton (Charles_seaton)
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 4:36 pm:   

OK, I'm getting jealous no one has suggested this for fishbowls.
Gerald Norman (Gnorman46)
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 10:18 pm:   

Thanks Ron, Charles I bet they will now.
john w. roan (Chessie4905)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 5:10 pm:   

Charles...look under Yahoo Aquarium group. :-)
Gerald Norman (Gnorman46)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 4:46 pm:   

Ok folks, I am using php nuke as a web portal for now and you can take a look, I have just started the admin features so I am learning the tool. Please take a look and register as users and I will approve them and start adding conrtent. pd4104.com. I will also send instructions once I have everything running.

I added a couple of banners to the top of the page, one is my wifes website and the other is BNO
Gerald Norman (Gnorman46)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 7:05 pm:   

I am having a little trouble figuring out the admin functions but should be able to get it figured out shortly. I will let everyone know by posting a note on the front page of the site that is is ACTIVE, you can still go out and check it out and register as users.
David B. Sweet (Sweets4104)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 7:48 pm:   

We are the proud owner/occupants of PD4104-2977, a 1957, retired 'hound. The interior has been refurbished [we started 2''06] and have just a few touches to finish. The roof is next along with the rest of the exterior. There is a listing of GM owners in the database on GMC-Bus-Nuts.
Blessings,
David
PD4104-2977
Winton, CA.
Gerald Norman (Gnorman46)
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Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 12:21 am:   

Thanks David
Austin Scott Davis (Zimtok)
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Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 9:52 am:   

Gerald,
You said a few post up that we can take a look...

Do you have a link?
John Zabrocki (John_z)
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Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 10:05 am:   

I signed up last night for the new site, and now i can't get in??? Hope this is something he can fix soon

Try www.pd4104.com
Gerald Norman (Gnorman46)
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Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 2:08 pm:   

Problem fixed. sorry about that.
Gerald Norman (Gnorman46)
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Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 2:28 pm:   

If you would like your profile and bus pictures added to the site please click on submit news and enter the info you would like published, email me the pictures at gnorman46@gmail.com and I will add them. Use members for the topic when you post your profile. I will code in a script so you can add your own pictures in the future.

If there is already a profile for you it is only a sample and I can delete that once you make your own. If you like the pictures in the sample profile just let me know and I will add those and you dont have to email them again.
Thanks
Gerald Norman (Gnorman46)
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Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 9:38 pm:   

Forums are now active, please make suggestions on forum categories and I will add them as they come.
Gerald Norman (Gnorman46)
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Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 1:30 pm:   

Things are changing on the site, you can now upload links and pictures directly to the website so no need to follow the previous instructions, I will not post further instructions on this thread because they are changing as I get used to the admin sections of the site.

Thanks for all the suggestions and help. Please visit the site and check it out.

Thanks to one of our first registered members we now have the following manuals for the PD-4104

Maintainence Manual, Operators manual, DD671 Manual and the 4104 alternator, 12 volt positive to negative conversion manual.

Way to go Scott
Paul Lawry (Dreamscape)
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Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 5:06 pm:   

Is it possible for an Eagle owner to snoop. I have always loved these old coaches.
Gerald Norman (Gnorman46)
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Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 9:07 pm:   

Come on down, take a look. You are welcome. I put the site up for PD4104 busses but anyone can look or join. You can most likely find information that is good for all busses.
Paul Lawry (Dreamscape)
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Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 11:26 pm:   

I checked your web site. Very good idea I must say, and very well put together. I truly hope it draws a lot of PD's to it. They are wonderful looking coaches.
I had thought of doing that for Eagle's, just don't know the right way to do it. You look like you know how.

Good Luck
Gerald Norman (Gnorman46)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2007 - 12:27 pm:   

Actually my web skills are in c# and dot net but I am using a portal for this site so I did not have to build it all before putting it up, seems to work real well and I can program the coding as well if needed. It is called phpnuke. I am having fun with it and we have 17 registered users as of this morning. We have been up almost a week.
Richard Bowyer (Drivingmisslazy)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2007 - 2:33 pm:   

Paul, there are already two Eagle sites, the last time I checked. Maybe a year ago.
Richard
Gerald Norman (Gnorman46)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - 12:20 am:   

I would like to thank everyone for making the pd4104.com site come to life, we have had more than 9000 actual hits to the site in the short time it has been up and running. That is after removing the initial 700 hits we had while I built and activated the site
(It takes all kinds of bus nuts don't it.)

Thanks again.
Gus Causbie (Gusc)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - 4:31 pm:   

Gerald,

The newe site is great, I hope more 4104 owners make use of it.

This won't take away from BNO at all, there is much to be learned at both sites.
Brian Hartzell (Bhartzell)
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Posted on Friday, November 02, 2007 - 9:04 pm:   

Just bought a 4104...1954 Serial 1187. Did a little reseach, found it was originally bought by Brooks Bus Lines, Paducah, Kentucky. I bought it from a guy who told me he purchased about 10-12 years ago in St. Louis and was told it ran from St. Louis to Chicago at one time. He bought it from a gospel group "The Crusaders" The name is still both sides (painted) and on the rear plate. Today, I turned over the plate (middle rear, above license plate) and found it has lettering "St Louis Bay" on the underside. ??? I would love to find more history on my "new love". BTW I love this and the 4104 web page!!
L James Jones Jr (Jamo)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 5:28 pm:   

We just bought Dounan Morton's '53 4104-204 a few weeks ago. Couple local road trips to date. Count us in. Great idea for all....
Gus Causbie (Gusc)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 8:43 pm:   

James,

Welcome to the best bus of all owners group. Be sure to give Gerald Norman's website a visit and register with him.
Jim Rink (Fakeguy)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 6:15 pm:   

I am looking for some pinstriping tape to trim out the roof over the gutter rails on my 4106. also looking for a good source for decal for destination sign area which is currently painted over. also, Private Coach sign....I know that is a lot for one message but would appreciate any input.
Thank you

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