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Barry McCully (Turtle)
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Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 2:11 pm:   

Want to shut the heat off for the summer I'm thinking that the two valves I close one inside the right hand engine compartment and the other one under trap door in floor?
Nick Badame Refrigeration Co. (Dnick85)
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Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 9:16 pm:   

Hi Barry,

You only need to close one valve to stop the flow.
I use the valve on the right hand side of the engine.

Good Luck
Nick-
JR Lynch (Njt5047)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - 10:49 pm:   

The only reasons to close the upper valve would be if pulling the engine or a water leak develops in the HVAC system.
JR
Tony LEE (T_lee)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 11:46 am:   

if you still use the OEM air-conditioner with the original mode of temperature control, shutting the hot water off will mean the temperature will uncontrollable.
Buswarrior (Buswarrior)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 3:58 pm:   

And no heat from the defroster for clearing fogging on a rainy day, with a valve closed.

happy coaching!
buswarrior
JR Lynch (Njt5047)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 10:34 pm:   

Does the AC control the valve in the upper front RH bay ceiling? My AC is long gone, but there's a valve in the front that doesn't do anything as far as I can see. There's no heat regulation. It's on or off. And that how I have to use it.
That big valve has to do something? Is it wired to the resistance switch in the dash?
That's one item (among many) that I'm not familiar with. Don't know it's actual purpose.
Anyone?
George M. Todd (George_mc6)
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Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 10:59 pm:   

Jr,
If the "big" valve in the front has a wire on it, it is the heater control valve. If it is the same as mine, it is full on or off, only. The "resistance switch in the dash" technically a potentiometer, doesn't control the valve directly, it tells the controller what temperature you want. The controller turns the valve on & off to regulate the temp. Your bus may have a heat light, which lights when the control opens the valve, in normal operation, it will blink on and off, depending on the temp.
Does this help?
Good luck hunting,
George
JR Lynch (Njt5047)
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 5:15 pm:   

Thanks George. That helps. The controller has a wire and solenoid on it. It also indicates that the unit isn't working as designed. I've head that NJT disconnected the rheostats? I don't know why they would do this.
Got major heat or no heat. It doesn't cycle on its own. Cannot run it for more than a few minutes. Even when in the 20s outside.
May remove all that crap and install a couple smaller heaters above the floor. One front and one rear. And keep the drivers heat. It works good.
JR
George M. Todd (George_mc6)
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 6:00 pm:   

JR,
A guess would be that they wanted all of their buses to run at the same temperature all of the time?
If so, there will be a resistor connected between the two terminals for the rheostat.

Don't take this as gospel, I'm 3 models behind you, and away from my shop manual, but I seem to think that the water valve is normally open, (energized to close.) If so, could just be a wire off. ???&*
G
Buswarrior (Buswarrior)
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Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 10:47 am:   

Transit operations are notorious for taking the heat control away from the pedal pusher sadists that some of their drivers have become.

Stock heat is hard to beat going down the road. Tons of fresh warm air into the coach.

Do a little forensic work and see if you can locate where they chopped in their permanent fix and restore it.

happy coaching!
buswarrior

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