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Wayne Ellenburg (Wlnburg)
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Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 8:38 pm:   

Newby needs some help from some the experts. I have been changing the switches out on my 01 Eagle. The switches have been changed by the previous owner when he built a wood dash. He had a lot of different switches and installed a universal starter switch. All I did was to change the toggle switches and put a push button starter back on. Some times when I would try to start the engine it would not do anything. I had to start it from the back. I felt that putting the push button would help this. Now the engine will not stop. The switch has accessory, off, run and start. I moved the start to the push button and ran a jumper to the Battery terminal. In the off position the guages go to zero but the engine would not stop. I did connect one wire for overhead courtesy lights to the acc terminal. I removed that wire and tried it again and turned it off and it ran for about 15 seconds and then died. Any suggestions? Thanks
Paul Lawry (Dreamscape)
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Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 9:23 pm:   

In shutting down. How long have you been running the engine before trying to shut it down? The air pressure has to be high enough for the skinner valve/solenoid to activate the little air cylinder to work.
I'm sure others will be more adapt to explain it better.

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Wayne Ellenburg (Wlnburg)
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Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 10:57 pm:   

Paul
That is probably it. The air was only up to about 25 psi. I will try it tomorrow again see if that is it. Thanks.
George M. Todd (George_mc6)
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Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 11:14 pm:   

Wayne,
Paul has it right on. Most busses have a protection valve which doesn't let air into the auxiliaries until the brake reservoirs have about 75 lbs in them. Your bus requires air pressure to operate the stop cylinder, so no air =no stop.
You can stop the bus by going to the rear and pushing the lever that the stop cylinder is touching, or by the flapper, moustrap, slammer, or whatever else the emergency shutdown is called. The only issue with this, is it may not stop the engine at idle, only throw out a big cloud of black smoke, and then you have to go back and manually reset the damper arm behind the latch.
George
Paul Lawry (Dreamscape)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 5:34 am:   

Wayne,

The air pressure was the first thing I thought of because of a simialar experience. The idea came from reading this and the other board (MAK). It happened to me right after I purchased our Eagle in 03. I couldn't figure out why it would not shut down, until I realized "It's the air pressure stupid". Boy did I feel STUPID.

And I just learned even more from George's post regarding a protection valve. Now I'm less stupid!

Good Luck, I hope that solves most of your problems. We all learn as we go.

Paul

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