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| c.w Van Hagen (Van)
Registered Member Username: Van Post Number: 17 Registered: 7-2008 Posted From: 72.193.19.183  Rating: N/A |
has any one swapped out a radiator before on an Eagle model 15,would like some info on the procedure.It seems aside from my previous endeavors that as things are being repaired and restored to make the bus reliable now Niagra falls has come a knockin on my door step in the form of a gusher on my radiator.probably just as well that it happened here at home and not on the road brining the bus home,like the fuel pumpgoing out in amarillo tx.a new core would cost over a grand ,what I do have available to me right now is a model 10 radiator in good shape for 300 dollars, it's approx 5 inches narrower than the model 15 and just as tall,same inlets and out lets as the 15 model just narrower.the transplant will consist of plates to make up the differance in width,inccedently my coach air compressor is not hooked up and will eventually be removed relieving the extra draw on engine crank thus producing less heat on the engine.I have about 5 or 6 tubes on current core that rotted out and let loose once I restored full turbo boost(amazing what a new rubber hose can do!).Seems that mounting bolt patterns are the same so it should work out fine till I can Raise the dough to get my original recored.any and all imput from those in the know would be grately appreciated thank you VAN | ||
| Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
Registered Member Username: Luvrbus Post Number: 466 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 71.30.179.250 Rating: N/A |
CW me again the model 15 radatior you have in the bus now is when a 8v92 was used I have the same one in my model 5.did you check to see if Gary had one at B&B coach in Vegas he may with all the engine upgrades he been doing | ||
| c.w Van Hagen (Van)
Registered Member Username: Van Post Number: 20 Registered: 7-2008 Posted From: 72.193.19.183 Rating: N/A |
yes I did ,he's been cleaning up the shop(about time,Heh Heh) and only has a few rads rom the model 10's of which I will p/u one this saturday | ||
| c.w Van Hagen (Van)
Registered Member Username: Van Post Number: 21 Registered: 7-2008 Posted From: 72.193.19.183 Rating: N/A |
so a rad from a 10 should work then for the 6v i have now like i said the in and outlets are the same , just a matter of making up the differance in the width with shimms so it can be bolted in | ||
| Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
Registered Member Username: Luvrbus Post Number: 467 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 71.30.179.250 Rating: N/A |
Bennett, should have the spacers if he can find them they are just 4 PCs of angle the ones I saw.I make have to go to Vegas that would be sight to see Gary with a clean shop.would you do me a favor and see if the stainless shop is still located across the street from him some one backed into the corner of my bus and bent the corner bumper | ||
| c.w Van Hagen (Van)
Registered Member Username: Van Post Number: 23 Registered: 7-2008 Posted From: 72.193.19.183 Rating: N/A |
if you mean the crome shop yep its still there | ||
| Wayne Schell (Rusty_eagle)
Registered Member Username: Rusty_eagle Post Number: 6 Registered: 4-2008 Posted From: 71.218.7.178 Rating: N/A |
CW Did you check to see if th shroud and fan will work with the smaller radiator? you bus will not cool without the shroud. | ||
| Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
Registered Member Username: Luvrbus Post Number: 468 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 71.30.179.250 Rating: N/A |
Wayne,forgot about you do you have any of the large 15 radiators left.You and Lin missed a good time in New Orleans man am I full of muffaletta sandwiches and catfish rolled in egg batter and pecans.CW this guy is president of our Eagle group and loves to be harassed by some | ||
| c.w Van Hagen (Van)
Registered Member Username: Van Post Number: 24 Registered: 7-2008 Posted From: 72.193.19.183 Rating: N/A |
thanks fo responding wayne,I beliave that it will,that is to say i havent measured the opening of the shroud or the size of my current fan, the model 10 rad has a shroud on it if the opening is the same right on, if not than my original shroud will do it can be modified,the diferance between the rads is only 5"in width only the hights are the same.I currently have six elec pusher fans mounted to my present rad . | ||
| Wayne Schell (Rusty_eagle)
Registered Member Username: Rusty_eagle Post Number: 7 Registered: 4-2008 Posted From: 71.218.7.178 Rating: N/A |
CW All I have left is an 05 radiator and I don't think it is in very good shape. Clifford I will meet you down there when the crawfish are in season. | ||
| c.w Van Hagen (Van)
Registered Member Username: Van Post Number: 25 Registered: 7-2008 Posted From: 72.193.19.183 Rating: N/A |
I appreciate it ,but like I said b&b has a model 10 thats in really nice shape and was pulled for a cummins swap and was functioning good acording to gary | ||
| Tom Caffrey (Pvcces)
Registered Member Username: Pvcces Post Number: 1218 Registered: 5-2001 Posted From: 65.74.72.93 Rating: N/A |
CW, I don't think you can make enough electrical power to cool your eagle engine while underway. Perhaps this is how your coach got into trouble. Tom Caffrey PD4106-2576 Suncatcher Ketchikan, Alaska | ||
| Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
Registered Member Username: Luvrbus Post Number: 472 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 71.30.179.250 Rating: N/A |
CW,whats up with the 6 electric fans has someone removed the original hydraulic cooling fan (Message edited by luvrbus on July 24, 2008) | ||
| c.w Van Hagen (Van)
Registered Member Username: Van Post Number: 30 Registered: 7-2008 Posted From: 72.193.19.183 Rating: N/A |
Hi tom you are probably correct,as you know getting familiar with a new bus takes time(goin on 4 weeks now)and alot of investigating for possible problems within the vehicles systems. Any thing weak presents it's self the more the bus operated,in this case half of my problems were faulty wireing,the other pre mature rad tubes failure in upper right of core . morning luvrbus,it's very possible the fans could have been some sort of band aid to a developing problem(clogged)with the radiator itself .the hydraulic fans(2)are functioning properly with no leaks.seems to me the fatigue I found in the area of the hole could be from extreem heat caused by a) clogged radiator b)that many fans ony block air flow all that much more creating even more heat. in any event 1 third of the problems have been resolved(THANK GOD),finding the problem,then comes figuring out how it occured,and lastly fixing it correctly so's it dosen't happen again. (Message edited by van on July 24, 2008) (Message edited by van on July 24, 2008) (Message edited by van on July 24, 2008) | ||
| Mark R. Obtinario (Cowlitzcoach)
Registered Member Username: Cowlitzcoach Post Number: 199 Registered: 4-2001 Posted From: 68.27.248.34 Rating: N/A |
When you say the coach air compressor is not hooked up I assume you mean the A/C compressor. Without an air compressor, how would you get compressed air for the brakes? | ||
| c.w Van Hagen (Van)
Registered Member Username: Van Post Number: 31 Registered: 7-2008 Posted From: 72.193.19.183 Rating: N/A |
hi mark ,yes thats what i meant to say the a/c compressor is not hooked up inthat the belt is off,the idler pulley is missing.I have the idler pulley shaft but no wheel,don't see anything in the sight glass, dont even know if the thing runs the compressor not locked up Wheel spins free.Who knows might just need a charge and the idle wheel and belt reinstalled. | ||
| c.w Van Hagen (Van)
Registered Member Username: Van Post Number: 41 Registered: 7-2008 Posted From: 72.193.19.183 Rating: N/A |
well todays the day ,gonna pull the bus into the drive way to pull the old radiator out(by my self)and start fitting the model 10 rad in.wish I had a shop to do the work in to get out of the sun (well cant have every thing) |