| Author | Message | ||
| Mike Tornesello (206.170.33.102) Rating: N/A |
Has anyone tried a regular house style toilet in their conversion? I have a big black tank so I'm not worried about capacity there. | ||
| dougthebonifiedbusnut (24.218.119.24)
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the biggest draw back is the amount of water they use if you really want one better have giant holding tanks areal flush toilet uses about a gallon and a half where an rv toilet uses as little as you need to clean the bowl | ||
| DaveD (207.236.51.86)
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Years ago, some RVs had a version of a toilet with a tank mounted as in a household toilet, but the tanks were much smaller. DaveD | ||
| Jayjay (65.134.221.94) Rating: N/A |
I've got a 55 gal. combined tank and use a 1 1/2 gal "home" toilet from Lowes'. No problems with slopping over or leaking seals. I tried the fancy space-age plastic base seal and it leaked, so I went back to the good old wax ring and have had no problems . HTH Cheers...JJ | ||
| Mike T (206.170.3.89) Rating: N/A |
Thank you everyone. I had planned on this from the start and I think I'll stick with the plan. One thing I did was put in a waste shut off valve, electrically operated, down below, right under the toilet between it and the tank in case the trap emptied itself with the forward and back motion of braking. We'll see if i need it. It's easy enough to eliminate it if it leaks. Mike | ||
| Dwight (67.213.8.100) Rating: N/A |
Mike, no story or opinion or guessing here, actual experience speakiing, I have a 1.5 gallon house commode in my unit, We have about 10,000 miles on the unit, a 100 gal grey/black combined holding tank, never empty the commode before we get on the road and have not spilled on drop yet, had to apply the breaks so hard one time that I pulled the water bed matteress off of the bed frame and through it on the floor, the commode never spilled a drop!!!!!! I have no smell in the coach like we did before (I think) because this commode never loses it's seal when you flush like the RV style commode......we would never go back to a RV type commode!!!! with 3 people in the unit we can survive about 7 days if we watch what we do..... | ||
| Earl-8-Ky (209.250.52.12) Rating: N/A |
3 flushes a day per person= 94.5 gal. no showers no dish washing . I would think you would not be able to last a week on 100 gal of water | ||
| Mike T (206.170.3.50) Rating: N/A |
I'm going to hold it to 4 or 5 flushes per day while boondocking, so about half of your estimate Earl. I went really heavy on tanks - 70 black, 130 gray, and 185 fresh. I had to do a lot of extra work for support and baffles for slosh. This should be interesting. Thanks again, this is really encouraging. Mike | ||
| David Anderson (168.215.176.156) Rating: N/A |
This question is for Jayjay from above. You said you used the wax ring. I have an RV type toilet that isn't installed yet. I haven't looked at the bowl-to-ring seal instructions yet, but how does it seal to the ring? Is it with a rubber seal or will a wax ring suffice? I don't have it with me so I can't look now. The bus is in the paint shop and the toilet is stored in the bay. I'm just curious as to what I should expect. Thanks, David Anderson | ||
| Ross Carlisle (Ross) (216.107.195.158)
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Arent there low consumtion toilets out there? Seems I remember seeing residential toilets that only used 2 quarts or so per flush. I abandoned this idea because of excessive water consumption, but this thread has me rethinking it. 1.5 gallons per flush would be too much for me. I would need something that consumed about 1/2 that. Ross | ||
| Mike T (206.170.33.201) Rating: N/A |
One thing I looked into was Sloan Flushmate. It is an enclosed tank that is a bladder type power assisted flush. They come in different kinds of toilets but not in Toto, (the best). They are 1.6 gal but they have a 504 series that is a 1 gal. flush. The minimum pressure is only 20 psi. They have a website and you can only find the 1 gal on the product specifications pages (acrobat stuff). Anyway I found the main guy on the phone who said they haven't been released yet except for one china manufacturer, St. Thomas Creations, who was making a bowl for it. I actually got him to offer to send me a free sample toilet but it never came. Now St. Thomas creations is no longer offered with sloan flushmate. It seems that this could be a good option but I guess it's not there yet. I think it's www.flushmate.com. See what you think. Mike | ||
| Mike T (206.170.33.201) Rating: N/A |
This is the link http://www.flushmate.com/framemfg.html and go to " get the specs " in pdf format. I guess St Thomas is still there as "Eclipse". Mike | ||
| Chris Sanderson (165.121.88.110)
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I would think it would be easy enough to convert a regular 1.6 down to about half that- A 1/2 gallon soda bottle in the tank will get you to 1.1, and float adjustment will get you to the point that it flushes however much or little you can live with. | ||
| George Myers (12.85.0.129)
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Do remember that home style toilets are not tested for crash worthiness. Expect it to come forward with a considerable velocity relative to the back of you head shortly after impact. | ||
| R.C.Bishop (128.123.88.3)
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Here Here.......Good point!. Thanx, George. What about the Matrine and RV commodes? RCB | ||
| Ross Carlisle (Ross) (207.88.96.33)
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Anything in the back of the bus will be in the front real fast in a bad accident. Just because it is RV approved does not mean it wont come loose and go through the windshield in a wreck. If you hot hard enough to make a bolted down toilet pull loose from the floor and come through at least one wall, you can expect the fridge, furniture and probably the entire galley to hit you in the head also. At that point, is a toilet added to the pile of debris really going to make a difference? I'd be surprised if any of the RV toilet manufacturers actually crash tested thier products. By that I mean installing the toilet in an RV and crashing the RV. If they did, we would be paying thousands for a toilet.  Ross | ||
| George Myers (12.85.14.111)
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The manufacturers of the RV toilets do have to test them for crash worthiness to have them approved for use in an RV. Home toilets break easier than you might think. Just drop something hard on one. | ||
| Ross Carlisle (Ross) (216.107.195.30)
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"Home toilets break easier than you might think." Agreed...My point is simply that if you are in an accident bad enough to cause the toilet to tear loose from its mounts or break up in any way, the toilet coming forward will be the least of your problems. Ross | ||
| Merlin Moon (Mrmerlin) (65.24.96.77)
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My experience in my house with the vaunted "green toilets" is they need TWO flushes to do the job. Where's the savings? The trouble is we soon won't be able to purchase the old fashioned standard toilets that flush in one fells swoop. Now to address the RV toilet thing, I can't see how a home style toilet is going to be a water saver ... just not so! My air flush Microphor uses a very small spit of water and a nice healthy blast of air to swirl it around. Trap opens and all is gone. I'm installing a standard sink spray hose and nozzle to be mounted beside the toilet in case 'skid marks' need to be erased. | ||
| FAST FRED (65.58.191.191) Rating: N/A |
You can spray PAM the inside of the bowl , to reduce skid marks. FAST FRED |