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| JamesB (56gmbusman)
Registered Member Username: 56gmbusman Post Number: 1 Registered: 8-2008 Posted From: 75.142.22.62 Rating: N/A |
Hey,New on here but have visited for years. Just thought Id show you my newest bus. Its a TDH3714 #563.If you look at the front end you will notice a difference with the windows. Just wondering if anyone has any ideas. Also looking for a set of seats.  | ||
| Jack Conrad (Jackconrad)
Registered Member Username: Jackconrad Post Number: 823 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 76.3.173.51  Rating: N/A |
Neat looking bus! What year is it? Jack | ||
| JamesB (56gmbusman)
Registered Member Username: 56gmbusman Post Number: 2 Registered: 8-2008 Posted From: 75.142.22.62 Rating: N/A |
its a 1956, 4-71 Detroit, Allison V-drive | ||
| David Lower (Dave_l)
Registered Member Username: Dave_l Post Number: 66 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 99.249.16.254  Rating: N/A |
very cool James it looks like the old bus's that ran in Winnipeg when I was little, you know painting the bus keeping the white parts white and every thing else a forrest green would look neet. :-) Dave L | ||
| joe padberg (Joemc7ab)
Registered Member Username: Joemc7ab Post Number: 292 Registered: 6-2004 Posted From: 66.38.159.33 Rating: N/A |
Amazing all those lurkers coming out of the woodwork. I am sure there must be a whole bunch more. Come'on you guy's and show yourselfs. Nice bus James! Joe. | ||
| Gus Causbie (Gusc)
Registered Member Username: Gusc Post Number: 723 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 208.54.200.66 Rating: N/A |
Nice looking bus. Amazing how much older it looks that the 4104s that are actually older? I like the old look, my favorite is the PD3751/451. I almost had one but was too slow!! | ||
| John Thorwardson (John_thorwardson)
Registered Member Username: John_thorwardson Post Number: 2 Registered: 8-2008 Posted From: 136.229.5.44 Rating: N/A |
Hi James, I have 1951 TDH that was converted in the late 70's. Do you know where wiring diagrams and or manuals for these buses can be found?  | ||
| c.w Van Hagen (Van)
Registered Member Username: Van Post Number: 63 Registered: 7-2008 Posted From: 72.193.19.183  Rating: N/A |
Very cool loking,looks like the one I rode in growing up back in the Bronx | ||
| Frank Allen (Frank66)
Registered Member Username: Frank66 Post Number: 90 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 64.12.117.73 Rating: N/A |
wondering what model the 1951 is?? had a 3101 that ran for yrs Frank Allen 4106 | ||
| Buswarrior (Buswarrior)
Registered Member Username: Buswarrior Post Number: 1351 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 76.68.132.136  Rating: N/A |
Hello JamesB. Thanks for sharing! Regarding the windshields, perhaps a previous owner flush mounted them? Or does it look like they were always that way? The tilt accomplishes two things, keeps the glare from the interior lights minimized at night, and gives that great ram air at the top of the windshield to the interior. happy coaching! buswarrior (Message edited by buswarrior on September 02, 2008) | ||
| Paul Lawry (Dreamscape)
Registered Member Username: Dreamscape Post Number: 331 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 75.93.55.100  Rating: N/A |
Gosh it sure is great to see some of these old timers! When I visited Coach Maintenance north of Sacramento he had a bunch of them. What history! Here's some pics. http://community.webshots.com/user/Dreamscapeeagle | ||
| Frank Allen (Frank66)
Registered Member Username: Frank66 Post Number: 92 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 64.12.117.73 Rating: N/A |
what model is the 1951 ??? Frank Allen 4106 | ||
| John Thorwardson (John_thorwardson)
Registered Member Username: John_thorwardson Post Number: 3 Registered: 8-2008 Posted From: 136.229.5.44 Rating: N/A |
I've been told it is a 3612. Is there an id type tag on the bus somewhere? I don't have any manuals or literature at all, so I don't know much about it. It's still fun trying to figure out how it's supposed to work, even without info. | ||
| JamesB (56gmbusman)
Registered Member Username: 56gmbusman Post Number: 3 Registered: 8-2008 Posted From: 75.142.22.62 Rating: N/A |
the front windshields look factory, everything matches up perfectly. | ||
| Arthur N. Gaudet (Runcutter)
Registered Member Username: Runcutter Post Number: 13 Registered: 9-2006 Posted From: 76.185.242.7 Rating: N/A |
James, the front windshields have me baffled - everything else is consistent with a transit built that late (paired windows). When I started driving (TDH 4509's and 4512's), slanted windshields were the norm. As previously mentioned, GM went to the slanted windshields to eliminate glare from the interior lights. I wasn't aware of anything with vertical windshields after the Yellow Coach, and maybe early GM (GM bought Yellow) days. I just emailed a copy of the picture to a friend who may be able to shed some light on the windshields (so to speak). You may also want to go to the Motor Bus Society website, http://www.motorbussociety.org/ - to do some additional research. Arthur | ||
| Arthur N. Gaudet (Runcutter)
Registered Member Username: Runcutter Post Number: 14 Registered: 9-2006 Posted From: 76.185.242.7 Rating: N/A |
James, heard back from my contact. He thinks the windshields were pushed out by a previous owner, last time for factory flat windshields was 1940-41. He also stated that he's seen this before in motor home conversions. Sounds like they did a good job. Hope this helps. By the way, I've been following this thread because I started driving GM old looks, and I've been casually looking for a seated 4512 in good condition (since that's probably impossible, it won't compete for funding with our update to the conversion on our PD4107.) Arthur (Message edited by runcutter on September 11, 2008) | ||
| George M. Todd (George_mc6)
Registered Member Username: George_mc6 Post Number: 557 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 207.231.75.253 Rating: N/A |
Just another possibility to consider, an accident, fairly late on? Alco (American Locomotive Co.) went out of business in 1968. A couple of years later, a rear end collision occurred, and a C628 Alco got a GE U28 nose. Sure had a lot of rail fans wondering, and ended up being very well photographed. Looks like a great job! George |