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Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
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Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 9:36 pm:   

Do you guys know of a manufacture that sells a 3000w 12 volt pure sine inverter not made in China.Magnum has told me for a year that they would be selling one so far no luck and I need to buy one thanks (John is waiting on his)
Chuck Newman (Chuck_newman)
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Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 10:05 pm:   

Check out

http://www.wholesalesolar.com/

They carry most name brands on the market at prices you can't beat.

Prosine makes two 3kw sinewave inverters. I don't know where they are made, but they are among the best in the industry.
Nick Badame Refrigeration Co. (Dnick85)
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Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 11:06 pm:   

Hi Clifford,

My Xantrex RS 3000 is 12v and pure sine wave.
http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/176/p/1/pt/7/product.asp

I like having a large screen read out of all the parameters too.

Good Luck
Nick-
Tom Christman (Tchristman)
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Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 10:02 am:   

Call Dick Wright at Wrico International-he knows them inside and out. Good Luck, TomC
Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
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Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 10:16 am:   

Tom, I been dealing with Dick for years and he is selling the Magnum brand now but is unable to get the 3000W yet.I may shop around and see if I can find one of the RS 3000 made in the USA. I have enough China made stuff in my life.FWIW my stacked 2012's Traces have severed me well for 15 years with no problems just time to upgrade for the new electronics gadets Good Luck
William Garamella (Nh_wanderer)
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Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 11:08 am:   

Here is an idea. How about two ProSign 2K (pure sign wave) stacked together. The units are designed for this. Another nice feature about stacking two units is redundancy. If one should fail you can always hobble along on 2K.

I recently purchased a refurbished unit with a one year warranty for < $750 delivered.

I installed it following the manual to a T and it is working flawlessly. I suspect these are refurbished because they were not installed properly.

I never have issues with warranted factory referb stuff because I suspect they have been gone over a 2nd time and they really don't want them back.

I have a friend that installed the same unit 3 years ago in his coach. Adjacent to his 8V92 and it has never failed. These need to be properly vented of they will overheat. He uses a small 12V computer fan that does the trick.

Below is a link to the e-bay seller/dealer I purchased from.

http://tinyurl.com/6dscxg

Bill

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FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
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Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 8:08 am:   

Everyone likes "bestitis" but unless you have a really unusually sensitive electronics package , or a need to operate a large induction motor , first question might be why SINE WAVE?

To run an air cond , yes you need the sine wave , but for most apps , chop chop at 1 /10 the cost works as well.

FF
Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
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Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 8:54 am:   

FF, I am changing over to a 2 burner induction cook top for the wife and it does not like MS inverters,as far the AC my Cruisair units have ran great off the MS for 15 years with no problems
good luck

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J.C.B. (Eagle)
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Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 5:05 pm:   

Clifford give Xantrex a call. If you have a Xantrex model now or can get a serial # and model # from a unit they will give you a 40% discount for being a former customer.
Nellie Wilson (Vivianellie)
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Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 10:06 am:   

Hey, Fred, what's a 'chop-chop?' And what's 'COS?' You mentioned that in another post (pertaining to batteries).

And Luvrbus, what's 'MS' mean?

Sorry, tryig to educate myself but I'm not familiar with all these acronyms.

Nellie Wilson
George M. Todd (George_mc6)
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Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 12:10 pm:   

Nellie,
Maybe your question about jargon will do some good, as a whole lot of people don't understand acronyms or non-standard terms.
Here goes!
COS=Cost Of Stuff, I think, I'm not sure either!
Chop-Chop=Fred's term for a cheap inverter?
MSW = Modified Sine Wave inverter.
SW or PSW=Pure Sine Wave inverter.

Modified Sine Wave inverters are much cheaper to buy, but produce poorer power quality which won't run many sensitive electronic appliances.

Sine Wave, or Pure sine wave inverters produce the same power quality as utility companies and generators. They are more expensive to buy, more efficient to run, and the stuff you run on them lasts longer.
HTH,
George
FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
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Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 6:58 am:   

Modified Sine Wave inverters are much cheaper to buy, but produce poorer power quality which won't run many sensitive electronic appliances.

"MSW" is what I call, chop chop, it does run all but the most sensative gear , TV ,sat gear radar oven , batterty chargers , and every power tool, drills etc just fine.

At about $200 for a 1500V version it does work for most folks.The good Trace real sine wave will be close to $10X, but may include an OK battery charger .

If you have a bubble jet printer or automatic mass spectrometer aboard, chop chop may not work.AS noted huge motor loads are better with a True Sine wave , but Air cond can easliy be done with DC units .

SOC usually refers to battery charge 100% full and on down.

OTS is "off the shelf" , what you can purchase cheaply , rather than invent and build for big bucks.

FF

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