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| Tim Brandt (Timb)
Registered Member Username: Timb Post Number: 314 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.165.176.62  Rating: N/A |
So with all the talk of K&N vs paper element in another thread what is everyone's opinion of the old oil bath style filter? Is there a good reason to get rid of it | ||
| Tom Christman (Tchristman)
Registered Member Username: Tchristman Post Number: 82 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 66.218.33.156 Rating: N/A |
If you have the original engine, have NOT turbo'd it, the oil bath filters work just fine. You should be servicing them at every engine oil change. The only reason they were changed to dry filters was the laziness of most in servicing the oil bath filters. Good Luck, TomC | ||
| Tim Brandt (Timb)
Registered Member Username: Timb Post Number: 315 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.165.176.62 Rating: N/A |
Thanks Tom. Just a 6-71 natural and I have always changed it when doing the crankcase I just never knew why they went away from them | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 766 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 76.250.203.186 Rating: N/A |
The big downside to oil bath is good air velocity is needed. So on that dusty campground road at 5mph BEHIND another camper , that cloud of dust you breath is what your engine gets , almost unfiltered. FF | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 1452 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.110.9  Rating: N/A |
Just another mess to deal with, just like the old style can oil filters and fuel filters. Less labor vs. more cost/ mess. At the price of oil anymore, air cartridge may be the way to go if you can get an air unit of sufficient size and the replacement element doesn't cost a fortune. You can check at a truck junk yard; they should go pretty cheap as long as you aren't looking for a chrome plated one OR get a take out bus filter assy. from NIMCO in New Jersey | ||
| Buswarrior (Buswarrior)
Registered Member Username: Buswarrior Post Number: 1582 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 76.66.19.195  Rating: N/A |
And a periodic really good cleaning of the entire oil bath assembly at some point, since you can be sure that some previous owner didn't do it right. Complete dis-assembly, power wash or whatever the screens, and ensure proper oiling on re-assembly. If you want to go paper element, the truck wrecking yard near you will have inexpensive options, or you may buy a new one from Donaldson for your application. Jump the middle ages and get something that is secured by clips, the end of the canister is attached to the filter media, never mind the multiple bolts fasteners style, if you can avoid it. happy coaching! buswarrior | ||
| JC Alacoque (Jc_alacoque)
Registered Member Username: Jc_alacoque Post Number: 81 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 72.45.68.242 Rating: N/A |
I kept the oil bath filter even after I installed a turbo on my 4-71. I installed a filter minder gauge that told me it had about 15 inches water column restriction, within DD specs. And no the turbo wasn't pulling oil out of it like some young guys were telling me it would. I just replaced it with a dry filter housing out of a junk yard to go with my recent engine overhaul. I was looking for more air flow for better performance. Otherwise there is nothing wrong with oil bath. Servicing it isn't that bad either. JC | ||
| Cullen Newsom (Cullennewsom)
Registered Member Username: Cullennewsom Post Number: 40 Registered: 2-2009 Posted From: 129.7.53.206 Rating: N/A |
I just replaced my filter, it is a paper element. Cost was about a hundred bucks. I am thinking about replacing the air filter unit with one that is popular with trucks. I see advertisements for the elements as low as $30.00 for the el-cheapo filter elements. It's not that I want to run an el-cheapo air filter, but rather, due to economies of scale, more popular filters should cost less than unpopular ones. And they also have the advantage of being more widely available. | ||
| Tim Brandt (Timb)
Registered Member Username: Timb Post Number: 345 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 74.244.14.221 Rating: N/A |
Wow a gallon of oil for the bath seems pretty cheap in comparison to a paper element | ||
| Cullen Newsom (Cullennewsom)
Registered Member Username: Cullennewsom Post Number: 50 Registered: 2-2009 Posted From: 98.201.161.214 Rating: N/A |
Yeah, they drive a hard bargain. |